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Re: System Build $2k. What Would You Build?

You may be asking why mATX, I would ask why not. Nobody's cared about expansion cards other than sound and GPU ... time so full ATX is just wasted space and money for something you'll never need. In micro-ATX, you might consider these motherboards that include USB 3.1: $117 ASRock Z170M ...
by JustAnEngineer
on Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:44 am
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: System Build $2k. What Would You Build?
Replies: 34
Views: 549

Re: Just how big is that case?

JAE, what specific limitations are driving you back to micro-ATX, out of curiosity? My most recent personal build was micro-ATX, and I've been leaning towards ...
by slowriot
on Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:06 pm
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: Just how big is that case?

Having recently built a mini-ITX system, I have resolved to go back to micro-ATX for my next gaming PC. JAE, what specific limitations are driving you back to micro-ATX, ...
by weaktoss
on Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:03 pm
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: Just how big is that case?

... say, nowadays, the point of Mini-ITX is to enable smaller builds than Micro-ATX and full ATX, and you're going to make some compromises as a result. That's why I like ...
by bhtooefr
on Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:50 pm
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: double standards bro

... and a reasonable platform to go with it. There had better be some micro-ATX AM4 motherboards with a modern chipset on them or I will probably be staying away.
by just brew it!
on Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:23 am
 
Forum: Processors
Topic: double standards bro
Replies: 80
Views: 1587

Re: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?

... actually an interesting juxtaposition, of that old Baby AT board and a Micro-ATX board, that really does a good job of showing the lineage of the Micro-ATX design. (Same ...
by Entroper
on Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:50 pm
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?
Replies: 25
Views: 710

Re: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?

That's actually an interesting juxtaposition, of that old Baby AT board and a Micro-ATX board, that really does a good job of showing the lineage of the Micro-ATX design. (Same height basically, but Micro-ATX has more integrated, so it needs less slots.)
by bhtooefr
on Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:47 pm
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?
Replies: 25
Views: 710

Re: Just how big is that case?

Having recently built a mini-ITX system, I have resolved to go back to micro-ATX for my next gaming PC. It would have been a real shame to make all of the compromises to use a mini-ITX motherboard and then end up in a case that's no smaller than a good micro-ATX case.
by JustAnEngineer
on Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:25 pm
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: Just how big is that case?

... whale of a mini-ITX case (single PCIe slot) is larger than many good ATX cases with seven PCIe slots. NZXT's matte black monstrosity is also larger than two Sugo SG10 micro-ATX (4 PCIe slots) cases or three Raven RVZ02 mini-ITX cases. Size isn't everything. ...
by Kougar
on Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:47 pm
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: Just how big is that case?

... whale of a mini-ITX case (single PCIe slot) is larger than many good ATX cases with seven PCIe slots. NZXT's matte black monstrosity is also larger than two Sugo SG10 micro-ATX (4 PCIe slots) cases or three Raven RVZ02 mini-ITX cases.
by JustAnEngineer
on Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:59 am
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships

... run a narrow ILM, significantly restricting the heatsink options. So, Micro-ATX is better suited there.
by bhtooefr
on Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:23 pm
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships
Replies: 37
Views: 1027

Re: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships

... cards hog a bunch of space for heatsinks. Not enough to justify a full ATX tower (particularly with one video card) though. I'm curious though - for a budget micro-ATX build, what case would you use? (Mini-ITX feels a bit too cramped... install a ...
by localhostrulez
on Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:09 pm
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships
Replies: 37
Views: 1027

Re: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships

micro-ATX seems to be being pushed out of the market honestly. If you go on Newegg right now and compare stock between ...
by slowriot
on Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:16 am
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships
Replies: 37
Views: 1027

Re: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships

... with huge towers nowadays - normal enthusiasts struggle to fill an ATX mid-tower, let alone a full tower. Full towers were all about stuffing ... components or an easier case to work in, you can just step up to Micro-ATX. Full ATX still has its uses, but they're much fewer and farther ...
by bhtooefr
on Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:49 am
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: REAL Ultra Tower Flagships
Replies: 37
Views: 1027

Re: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?

Well, someone who's asking about Mini-ITX with those features is probably putting a premium on small size.

But, yes, Micro-ATX can get you a reasonably small machine for much less money.
by bhtooefr
on Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:06 am
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?
Replies: 25
Views: 710

Re: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?

... out) in... about 13 liters, IIRC. Otherwise, I'd say stepping up to Micro-ATX would be a good idea, you get a lot more room to work, and dual graphics does become an ...
by slowriot
on Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:53 pm
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?
Replies: 25
Views: 710

Re: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?

I like my mini-ITX but I would go µATX next time. I agree on all of your points. My mini-ITX case has an expensive slot-load ... hub to plug in all of my devices. What really seals the deal is that not only is micro-ATX better... it's also the least expensive form factor.
by JustAnEngineer
on Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:22 pm
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?
Replies: 25
Views: 710

Re: Replacement build

Switching to Micro-ATX on the mobo will save me quite a few bucks and not cost me anythiung I don't need - any tips for micro-ATX ...
by JustAnEngineer
on Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:08 pm
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Replacement build
Replies: 22
Views: 362

Re: The desktop PC "upgrade itch"

... PC build features a 2500k@4.3ghz with a closed loop watercooler. On an atx motherboard I may be able to get closer to 5ghz but on my current mini ... am currently looking at swapping out my board but wanting to stay in a micro atx form factor which is quite limiting.
by gamer51087
on Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:50 pm
 
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: The desktop PC "upgrade itch"
Replies: 47
Views: 1640

Re: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?

... out) in... about 13 liters, IIRC. Otherwise, I'd say stepping up to Micro-ATX would be a good idea, you get a lot more room to work, and dual graphics does become an ...
by bhtooefr
on Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:15 pm
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?
Replies: 25
Views: 710

Re: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?

... information about the PSUs they will accept. I've also thrown in some micro-ATX and ATX cases so you can compare. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1flQL0FFKLO0JXywdtWbCbbDB7xdKUVBIVNOLGKQQZ5g/edit#gid=0 ...
by slowriot
on Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 am
 
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: ITX with 2x mechanical HDDs and big GPU?
Replies: 25
Views: 710

Re: Media Server / Gaming Build

Have you considered micro-ATX? http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#s=30&f=7&E=1,3&L=4&d=0&sort=a8&page=1 ...
by XorCist
on Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:52 pm
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Media Server / Gaming Build
Replies: 11
Views: 365

Re: Media Server / Gaming Build

Have you considered micro-ATX? http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#s=30&f=7&E=1,3&L=4&d=0&sort=a8&page=1 ...
by JustAnEngineer
on Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:39 pm
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Media Server / Gaming Build
Replies: 11
Views: 365

Re: Just how big is that case?

... to an SFF prebuilt, which would be a quarter of the size of my current micro-atx build. I run an SFF prebuilt (HP 8200, and I've dealt with a school district full of these ...
by localhostrulez
on Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:41 pm
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: Just how big is that case?

I ran into this on my last build. Modern mico-atx and mini-itx cases really aren't that much smaller then a regular ATX minitower. ... shift to an SFF prebuilt, which would be a quarter of the size of my current micro-atx build. I thought the Prodigy was actually pretty good. The Prodigy case ...
by Flatland_Spider
on Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:48 pm
 
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Just how big is that case?
Replies: 31
Views: 2478

Re: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?

... me crazy that "mini" is a smaller form factor than "micro". You can't use that argument for PC cases though, because ITX and ATX aren't even the same thing! Replace ATX with "dog" and replace ITX with "rodent" ...
by Mr Bill
on Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:39 pm
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?
Replies: 44
Views: 1330

Re: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?

Although, ITX is VIA's suite of form factors that began as ATX-compatible standards (for ITX and Mini-ITX, anyway - Nano and Pico are not), ... there's full-size DTX, which is 203x244 mm - basically a 2-slot version of Micro-ATX, that AMD made to compete against Shuttle's old cube form factor.
by bhtooefr
on Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:33 pm
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?
Replies: 44
Views: 1330

Re: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?

... me crazy that "mini" is a smaller form factor than "micro". You can't use that argument for PC cases though, because ITX and ATX aren't even the same thing! Replace ATX with "dog" and replace ITX with "rodent" ...
by Chrispy_
on Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:07 pm
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?
Replies: 44
Views: 1330

Re: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?

... ... Corsair Carbide Series Air 240 That 33-liter micro-ATX case is much larger than the 13½-liter mini-ITX case that the OP has selected. Take a look at ...
by Mr Bill
on Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:19 pm
 
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Sanity check on my Mini-ITX build plans?
Replies: 44
Views: 1330

Re: For the AMD holdouts here...

This is about as good as socket AM3 motherboards get. It is unfortunately ATX. There are no good micro-ATX socket AM3 motherboards anymore.
by JustAnEngineer
on Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:30 pm
 
Forum: Hot Deals
Topic: For the AMD holdouts here...
Replies: 7
Views: 388
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