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Why wouldn't they just ship you a new barrel?

Vrock wrote:

Why wouldn't they just ship you a new barrel?

1. Parts hard to get, and Walther is taking a while to make a decision
2. I want a new gun.

If the gun was a few years old, sure, send me a replacement part, but its a week old.. plus its a fixed barrel, will require some skills to replace.

The PPQ has a fixed barrel? Since when?

The .22 version does, that's what I be talking aboot

Vrock wrote:

The PPQ has a fixed barrel? Since when?

Ah, mea culpa.

stopped by the range today, had a sale on Sig products, picked up a P220 Elite Stainless.. oh baby!

The first step is to admit that you have a problem.

I'm actually leaning towards that if I/when I get another 9mm but that's 3rd or 4th on the list (Reminggton sps in 243, ruger blackhawk in 357 come first)

Problem? nahhhh not me!

bthylafh wrote:

The first step is to admit that you have a problem.

elmopuddy wrote:

stopped by the range today, had a sale on Sig products, picked up a P220 Elite Stainless.. oh baby!

Heh. And I thought I had poor impulse control.

I'm quite proud of myself. A dude at the club today offered to sell me a Thompson with a 50 round drum. I turned him down because... well, not enough plastic on it.

you you you BAD GUN NUT! You passed on a Thompson?


That's not even on my wish list that's on my "it'd be awesome but I'd have to win the lotto list", at least for a true full auto one.

paulWTAMU wrote:

you you you BAD GUN NUT! You passed on a Thompson?
That's not even on my wish list that's on my "it'd be awesome but I'd have to win the lotto list", at least for a true full auto one.

Oh, it wasn't full auto. I can't afford to play in those circles. I didn't see it, but knowing the seller it was likely a semi Thompson replica in good to great condition. It's even in a caliber I reload. But I don't want one, really. I'm not much of a history buff and a design from the 30s (or whenever) is not interesting to me and my taste for innovation. Remember, I'm the dude who bought a Vector because of the recoil management system.

Besides... I have redirected most of my firearms budget to a new area. One that doesn't take up as much room in the safe.

handguns?

Or something else?


I've got an appreciation for older designs (that's why I have a 1911) but I agree that they're not going to make up the bulk of what I have. But hell, I only want a few more guns total. 3 more handguns, 2-3 more rifles and I'm good, so I'd rather not spend my money and limited space/time/storage on great-for-their-time but not as useful for what I want firearms.

paulWTAMU wrote:

I only want a few more guns total. 3 more handguns, 2-3 more rifles and I'm good, so I'd rather not spend my money and limited space/time/storage on great-for-their-time but not as useful for what I want firearms.

I swear, just one more hit and I'm putting the crack pipe down. Honest.

QFT!

Darkmage wrote:

paulWTAMU wrote:

I only want a few more guns total. 3 more handguns, 2-3 more rifles and I'm good, so I'd rather not spend my money and limited space/time/storage on great-for-their-time but not as useful for what I want firearms.

I swear, just one more hit and I'm putting the crack pipe down. Honest.

ಠ_ಠ

When you reply above something Cthulhu kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens.

paulWTAMU wrote:

I've got an appreciation for older designs (that's why I have a 1911) but I agree that they're not going to make up the bulk of what I have. But hell, I only want a few more guns total. 3 more handguns, 2-3 more rifles and I'm good, so I'd rather not spend my money and limited space/time/storage on great-for-their-time but not as useful for what I want firearms.

On the other hand, I love 1911's because the modern ones are excellent firearms and I love the way they shoot. They have evolved into excellent modern firearms, regardless of their roots. Honestly, I would be much less interested in an original from 100 years ago, except as a potential investment. I think I'm with DarkMage on this one...

Buub wrote:

On the other hand, I love 1911's because the modern ones are excellent firearms and I love the way they shoot. They have evolved into excellent modern firearms, regardless of their roots. Honestly, I would be much less interested in an original from 100 years ago, except as a potential investment. I think I'm with DarkMage on this one...

Hmm, Dad's in AZ right now so I should ask Sis (she lives a few houses down on the same dead-end street and. more importantly. knows the alarm codes) to go get the serial # on his 100% gov't-issue M1911A1.

I like them but for the size and weight I can get more modern firearms that shoot equally well and hold a ton more ammo. Or I can get the same capacity in much smaller and easier to carry guns

I think I have come to the conclusion that I shoot much better with full metal guns. I can shoot the PPQ well, but not very consistent, I pick up a CZ, and I shoot consistent and true.

Lesson learned.

paulWTAMU wrote:

I like them but for the size and weight I can get more modern firearms that shoot equally well and hold a ton more ammo. Or I can get the same capacity in much smaller and easier to carry guns

I, however, am cursed with small palms and short/fat fingers. My S&W 4006 is millimetres away from being too big for my hand and I'm sure its grip size is part/most of my accuracy problem. A 1911 single-stack fits me where a double stack doesn't.

Besides, when the jig finally goes up, we'll all have the unlimited magazine linked to the Portable Hole (old D&D reference there).

paulWTAMU wrote:

... You passed on a Thompson? ...

One of the most memorable (if not the most memorable) events in my shooting experience was firing a full auto 1928 Thompson. The then president of our gun club offered to let us fire it with his reloads for a dollar a bang. Being somewhat impoverished at the time I limited my turn to five shots. I fired two single shots to get a feel for the gun and then held the trigger for a three shot burst. I aimed the burst at the base of the berm (earth backstop) a little over fifty feet away. Shots two and three struck the berm about three or four feet further up from the previous shot as if they had a mind of their own. I recall being surprised by how slowly the Thompson cycled in full auto. It seemed to chug like a washing machine.

Some months later I had my only other full auto experience with a 9mm Uzi. Its cycle rate was much more like what I had expected from a full auto gun, but it just didn't have the visceral feel of the Thompson.

Buub wrote:

paulWTAMU wrote:

I've got an appreciation for older designs (that's why I have a 1911) but I agree that they're not going to make up the bulk of what I have. But hell, I only want a few more guns total. 3 more handguns, 2-3 more rifles and I'm good, so I'd rather not spend my money and limited space/time/storage on great-for-their-time but not as useful for what I want firearms.

On the other hand, I love 1911's because the modern ones are excellent firearms and I love the way they shoot. They have evolved into excellent modern firearms, regardless of their roots. Honestly, I would be much less interested in an original from 100 years ago, except as a potential investment. I think I'm with DarkMage on this one...

They havent "evolved" into excellent firearms, they were born that way! The prototype fired 6000 rounds without a stoppage, only pausing to be sumberged in water when it became to hot to handle.

That being said, shooters as a whole probably put too much emphasis on the importance of the handgun in combat. Anybody arguing over which pistol you should carry in a SHTF situation is arguing the wrong question.

But I'm tired of the "1911s aren't/weren't reliable" myths. A properly built and maintained 1911 is one of the most reliable guns you can own.

They're very reliable with ball ammo, IME, but I've seen people have fits trying to find good JHPs that work with them. My Rock Island works with most stuff, but I've seen enough people complain about finding JPHs that work for them that I can't discount it.


Anyone arguing over what gun--any gun-- is perfect for SHTF has their head up their hind end so far they can *almost* see daylight. Stuff like food preparation, water, shelter, first aid, etc are all more important if things go really south. Have something that goes bang that uses ammo that isn't too heavy or huge (space and weight matter). After that, eh

If it's a milspec 1911, yeah it's probably going to hiccup with some types of hollow points as the gun was designed to feed round nose bullets. However most modern guns like the Ruger Sr1911 will eat anything, to include lead semi wad cutters and flying ashtrays. My Colt series 70 repro does fine with Hornady XTPs.

My new baby, shoots like a dream!

At some point you have to admit you have a problem.

Seriously though, are you independently wealthy?

Vrock wrote:

At some point you have to admit you have a problem.

Seriously though, are you independently wealthy?

No no, I've sold some that I've bought.. I have only 6 handguns and 3 rifles total, 2 are for sale too

And at what point does the Sûreté du Québec start looking around your place for a Harley?

(Somewhat of an inside joke for those not familiar with Montreal crime patterns)