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Re: Gun prOn!

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:12 pm

the only S&W 357s the local guy has are short barrels (2") and I just don't want a .357 snubby. I want a big gun for that round. I've done .357 snubbies before and they're just not as much to shoot (though the muzzle flash is pretty cool, it's like a flame thrower!)
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Re: Gun prOn!

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:20 pm

or grab a Colt Python for an insane price!.. I have seen some on CanadianGunNutz forums for $5k++

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Re: Gun prOn!

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:40 pm

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See, I thought the .357 sig round was supposed to be close?
It is close, but only with the 125gr load. You get substantial muzzle blast too, plus bottleneck pistol cartridges can be challenging to reload.
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:44 pm

Pythons are too valuable to shoot. You have a $5,000 paperweight when it's said and done. :)

It would be nice if Colt would make them again but they show no signs of doing so. Even if they did, they'd have to make some manufacturing changes or they'd be crazy expensive just like the old ones.
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:06 pm

So I sold my Glock 34, bought a CZ75B in .40, super sweet with trigger job and comp hammer.

Also bought a Savage MK2, my oldest didn't like the noise of the MVP in .223, go figure.

Now selling that MVP, along with my CZ97B.. I don't fire the .45 often enough, Will pick up a semi-auto .223 or .308 for me to plink with.. most likely not an AR type, since those are classified as restricted, which means a PITA to transport.. so possibly a Mini-14 or some variant of.

Yes a Mini-14 is considered a hunting rifle, and an AR-15 is a bad black "assault rifle".. sigh.. :roll:
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Re: Gun prOn!

Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:24 pm

jeez. racist Canada :P

I've never been able to even think about affording a colt python. Even if I could I don't think I would. I have a hard time dropping multiple thousands on a gun.
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:01 pm

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/first-l ... show-2015/

WANT.

The .22 version did nothing for me and the stupid dummy silencer on it only made it less attractive. But a MP40 replica in 9mm, now you're talking. Hopefully the build quality is good and mags aren't crazy expensive.

Now if GSG would make a centerfire version of their STG-44, we'd really have something to talk about.
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:50 pm

Start hoarding the Sten sticks. I am surprised it is not banned simply because the stick looks like a fore-grip. :D
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:53 pm

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Now if GSG would make a centerfire version of their STG-44, we'd really have something to talk about.

FG42 or bust.

[/ludicrous fantasy]
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:33 pm

Captain Ned wrote:
Vrock wrote:
Now if GSG would make a centerfire version of their STG-44, we'd really have something to talk about.

FG42 or bust.

[/ludicrous fantasy]

Well, maybe not. If you have some patience and 5 grand lying around, there's this:
http://smgguns.com/?page_id=99
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:43 pm

Vrock wrote:
Captain Ned wrote:
Vrock wrote:
Now if GSG would make a centerfire version of their STG-44, we'd really have something to talk about.
FG42 or bust.

[/ludicrous fantasy]
Well, maybe not. If you have some patience and 5 grand lying around, there's this:
http://smgguns.com/?page_id=99

Better not send either the MP40 or the FG42 page links to my father, else the Luger P08, the Walther P38, and the Gewehr K98 will likely have friends.
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Re: Gun prOn!

Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:17 am

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Well, maybe not. If you have some patience and 5 grand lying around, there's this:
http://smgguns.com/?page_id=99



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Re: Gun prOn!

Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:04 pm

So I was shopping for an AR-15, then I found an AR-10! Ammo is double the price, but geez, DPMS with heavy stainless barrel... sexy!
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Re: Gun prOn!

Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:44 am

Go with the AR-15.
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:54 am

so...a Ruger GP100 and a CZ 75 B (full sized metal 9mm that I like) are now within 10 bucks of each other (550 vs 560 respectively).


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Re: Gun prOn!

Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:31 am

I wouldn't pay more than $520 for a stock cz-75b. That Ruger is a good deal though.
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:24 pm

Wow guns cheap there! Paid 780$ for my 75B .40!

Here's details of an AR-15 I am looking at (Chinese to me!):
20" barrel, 1:9 twist, chrome lined Bushmaster heavy barrel factory AR-15.
Lower is marked "Restricted Law Enforcement/Government Use Only" on one side.
On the other side it has the bushmaster logo with "Cal. 223-5.56MM Mod. XM-15-E2S."
I used the gun for 3Gun matches over the last 2 years and it runs 100%, condition is very good, just small marks here and there from usual installs and use. Would be great for tac irons division due to long site radius.
Comes with:
A2 fixed stock with storage, Timney #670 trigger, barrel orange safety plug, hogue black grip, free float metal round forend, anti walk out pins, railed low profile gas block, Magpul BAD lever, adjustable length bipod (for bench shooting or you'll be bumped to open class), short compensator, BCM Mod 3 charging handle, clone GG&G MAD BUIS rear site (multiple aperture device)/fold down front sight, soft case with storage for 5 magazines, 4 10 round LAR magazines with Magpul baseplates.
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Re: Gun prOn!

Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:41 pm

My $.02. There are a lot of extras included. Some are an improvement, but some I find unnecessary for my needs (YMMV). I do not see a price, but it is really hard to beat this price for new

My first AR was a Bushmaster XM-15 (LEO, blah, blah). I think I paid $600 used, but it was stock with two aluminum magazines and the hard case they came with.
Good: The Timney adds value. The bi-pod is worth something, as are the BCM charging handle, BUIS, and extra magazines.
Neutral: I don't like the BAD levers and think anti-walk out ins are also not-necessary (a $20 accessory at best).
Silly: The orange plug, grip, compensator, and base plates are too cheap to mention, IMO, and makes me wonder if someone raised the price accordingly.

Again, a good NEW AR can be had for about $550 right now. Too cheap for even us home-builders to compete with.

elmopuddy wrote:
Wow guns cheap there! Paid 780$ for my 75B .40!

Here's details of an AR-15 I am looking at (Chinese to me!):
20" barrel, 1:9 twist, chrome lined Bushmaster heavy barrel factory AR-15.
Lower is marked "Restricted Law Enforcement/Government Use Only" on one side.
On the other side it has the bushmaster logo with "Cal. 223-5.56MM Mod. XM-15-E2S."
I used the gun for 3Gun matches over the last 2 years and it runs 100%, condition is very good, just small marks here and there from usual installs and use. Would be great for tac irons division due to long site radius.
Comes with:
A2 fixed stock with storage, Timney #670 trigger, barrel orange safety plug, hogue black grip, free float metal round forend, anti walk out pins, railed low profile gas block, Magpul BAD lever, adjustable length bipod (for bench shooting or you'll be bumped to open class), short compensator, BCM Mod 3 charging handle, clone GG&G MAD BUIS rear site (multiple aperture device)/fold down front sight, soft case with storage for 5 magazines, 4 10 round LAR magazines with Magpul baseplates.


EDIT: Just noticed you were in Canada. Sorry! It should have registered when I saw what you paid for your .40. :(
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Re: Gun prOn!

Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:54 pm

Yeah I be in Canada... cheapest non-crap AR is 995$:
http://frontierfirearms.ca/firearms/bla ... e-223.html

I may pick that up, some sort of optic.. bear in mind can only use AR at range, which is 50 yards..

If I manage to sell off a couple computers I have lying around, I'll pick up an upgraded model.. I do plan on running 3-Gun later this year.
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Re: Gun prOn!

Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:49 pm

I acquired a Nagant revolver that was birthed in 1915. That makes it 100 years old. It's in arsenal refinished condition with a reasonably decent bore. It has seen WWI, the Red Revolution and murder of the Romanovs, the Great Patriotic War, Stalin and his Five Year Plans, the Cold War, Glasnost and Perestroika, the fall of Communism, and Putin.

I can't wait to shoot it. It will nicely complement my 1944 Nagant, which was made in the Izhevsk arsenal since the Tula plant was captured by the Wehrmacht.

If you still want a Glock after reading that, you have no soul.
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:36 pm

Vrock wrote:
If you still want a Glock after reading that, you have no soul.
You didn't hear? The new Glocks have red dot sights from the factory! Squeee! :D
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Re: Gun prOn!

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:44 pm

Do they also come with a little Mexican boy to shoot and clean the gun for you too?
 
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Re: Gun prOn!

Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:37 pm

We hit the range on Superbowl Sunday for a non-sanctioned long range match at Quantico. I didn't get many photos, but I did get some. I'll try to get them uploaded later. This will have to do for now.

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That's the SWMBO standing next to the target in the pits. It looks huge here, but at 1,000 yards, it's a speck on the horizon.
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:50 am

how do you SEE at 1000 yards? a standard 100 yard rifle target is so goddamn tiny my iron sights obscure the whole thing. seriously. It's awful.
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:10 am

Vrock wrote:
I acquired a Nagant revolver that was birthed in 1915. That makes it 100 years old. It's in arsenal refinished condition with a reasonably decent bore. It has seen WWI, the Red Revolution and murder of the Romanovs, the Great Patriotic War, Stalin and his Five Year Plans, the Cold War, Glasnost and Perestroika, the fall of Communism, and Putin.

I can't wait to shoot it. It will nicely complement my 1944 Nagant, which was made in the Izhevsk arsenal since the Tula plant was captured by the Wehrmacht.

If you still want a Glock after reading that, you have no soul.


hmmm, pics?

I did sell my Glock, remember?

Finally got to shoot my CZ .40, trigger job and comp hammer.. just wow, delicious to shoot!

So, as some of you may not know, the Canadian dollar tanked, basically most firearms related goods will go up about 25%.. so I picked up a mid-range AR.. a CORE15 TAC3, cheap enough so I can put a decent optic on it once I am used to irons, but good enough quality that it will last me a while.

While I wait for its arrival, reading up on field stripping and cleaning.. seems pretty straight forward.

And no, not loading it up with tacticool :P
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:12 am

paulWTAMU wrote:
how do you SEE at 1000 yards? a standard 100 yard rifle target is so goddamn tiny my iron sights obscure the whole thing. seriously. It's awful.

Well, when the 7-ring is about 6 feet in diameter ...
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:19 am

What caliber do you need to be fairly accurate at 1000 yds?
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:39 am

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What caliber do you need to be fairly accurate at 1000 yds?

Any caliber can be accurate at 1000 yds as long as you know the ballistics. Problem is, most ballistics tables stop at 500 yds.

My deer rifle is a .270 Winchester, and my go-to round is Remington Core-Lokt soft points with 150 gr bullets. These leave the spec muzzle at 2850 fps. According to ChuckHawks at 500 yds they're at 1385 fps and drop 61.2 inches. At 1000 yds they're probably subsonic and have at least another 10 feet of droop or more. I've done some 300 yd targets but never have tried 1000 yd. The VT National Guard runs a sight-in clinic (a/k/a Operation Bullseye) every year in October (deer season here is November). This is done from the 100 yd pits, but you have to drive by the 1000 yd pits to get there. Every year I ask what it would take to let us poor civvies give it a whirl from 1000 yds but the weekend wonder butterbar running the show can't even say no. The lifer sgts doing the armory work (every rifle gets a full mil-spec inspection before allowed on the range) look at me knowingly, but still no joy.
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:29 am

I got a new gun! It's not what I was planning on though.

A friend of mine has carried an LC9 for a couple years, and bought the new striker fired one as soon as it came out. Then he won another new one this week in a raffle (why can't I win guns in raffles?). So he sold me the one he won for 300 cash. I've been wanting a smaller carry gun so it works for me. I figure I'll save up a month or two and buy that .357 then but this was too sweet to pass up. Slight capacity downgrade, but so much easier to carry than the SR9c (mostly due to being substantially thinner).
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Re: Gun prOn!

Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:50 pm

The hammer fired LC-9 had a style DAO trigger that was borderline useless. Hope the striker fired version is better.

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