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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:39 am

Wait til next year when the BR-Z will have a turbo motor.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:01 am

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I drive a Golf R!

Very nice. I saw one in my dealers lot when I picked up my 2012 GLI. I love the centre exhaust.

+1 for the manual transmission.
 
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:07 am

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Wait til next year when the BR-Z will have a turbo motor.

The current FR-S/BR-Z is a dynamite car:

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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:18 am

Captain Ned wrote:
Wait til next year when the BR-Z will have a turbo motor.


That is the funny thing; he doesn't WANT a turbocharged engine! He's owned a 2007 WRX STI from new until trading it in for the BRZ and over time has become one of those...driving purist types. Particularly rear wheel drive with few electronic aids to reduce complexity, and naturally aspirated for the improved throttle response and consistent power delivery. The extremely low center of gravity and unheard-of lightness helped too!

That approach isn't exactly my thing but the way I see it I have no care or right to judge the preferences of another. I'm just happy to see people that are passionate about cars.

Tuners (and the original engineers even more so) are a clever bunch so I'd be an idiot to say something is not possible, but the BRZ is running some pretty high compression as far as a naturally aspirated engine goes. Some people more mechanically inclined than I are telling me that adding forced induction will likely cause detonation problems unless they reduce those ratios. I see Subaru/Toyota further developing the engine and adding turbocharging with a redesign, but I doubt it will amount to a simple bolt on.

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CasbahBoy wrote:
I drive a Golf R!

Very nice. I saw one in my dealers lot when I picked up my 2012 GLI. I love the centre exhaust.

+1 for the manual transmission.


I've been telling people, ignore the interior quality criticisms they've been reading about the Mk6 Jetta until they've driven a GLI. Great choice and I hope you enjoy it! Also, post pics!
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:23 am

CasbahBoy wrote:
Tuners (and the original engineers even more so) are a clever bunch so I'd be an idiot to say something is not possible, but the BRZ is running some pretty high compression as far as a naturally aspirated engine goes. Some people more mechanically inclined than I are telling me that adding forced induction will likely cause detonation problems unless they reduce those ratios. I see Subaru/Toyota further developing the engine and adding turbocharging with a redesign, but I doubt it will amount to a simple bolt on.

Subaru already has a turbo version of that motor running in JDM Legacies right now. 296HP out of 2 litres is pretty impressive. And yes, you must reduce the compression ratio when you add a turbo.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:58 am

CasbahBoy wrote:
Tuners (and the original engineers even more so) are a clever bunch so I'd be an idiot to say something is not possible, but the BRZ is running some pretty high compression as far as a naturally aspirated engine goes. Some people more mechanically inclined than I are telling me that adding forced induction will likely cause detonation problems unless they reduce those ratios. I see Subaru/Toyota further developing the engine and adding turbocharging with a redesign, but I doubt it will amount to a simple bolt on.

For factory tuning it very rarely is a bolt-on, but it doesn't have to be particularly complex, either. Keep in mind that the 4S engine is using GDI (gasoline direct injection), which allows for stable operation at higher compression ratios than what have traditionally been used with multi-point manifold injection.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:21 pm

End User wrote:
Captain Ned wrote:
Wait til next year when the BR-Z will have a turbo motor.

The current FR-S/BR-Z is a dynamite car:


Epic GT86 review.

Put me in the 'needs moar powah' boat, but after seeing that review, I am sorely tempted. Preferences aside, that was one of the most polished video reviews of a car I have ever seen, and clearly a labour of love. Worth a watch even if you don't like the car.

Driven (but never owned) the original AE86, and that car was a blast to drive even with only 120 hp.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:06 pm

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You should come to North America sometime and try out the Mustang. The new ones are just EPIC. Most powerful production mustang ever is currently the Shelby GT500. 550hp (410kW).
The 2013 Shelby GT500 Mustang available now comes with 650 horsepower (485 kW). 8)
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:23 pm

I learned to drive with 52 hp.

For me, the Toyobaru would be a rocketship, even naturally aspirated.

I haven't posted it in this thread, at least...

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Can't find a convenient image of it with the summer wheels I got - VW Montreal IIs, polished, with the insets painted anthracite.

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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:37 pm

bhtooefr wrote:
For me, the Toyobaru would be a rocketship, even naturally aspirated.

Based on its power-to-weight ratio, which is just a hair worse than my Celica GT-S but doesn't need to wait for a lift cam to wake up, I'm betting on similar performance numbers but with much better handling. Meaning, fast enough to get arrested, but not fast enough to be worth it. Every turbo Subaru sold in North America will outrun it, which is as good a reason as any for Subaru to bring the turbo version over here.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:46 pm

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Based on its power-to-weight ratio, which is just a hair worse than my Celica GT-S

And most of the motoring press is mystified that the Toyota version got shoved into Scion with a meaningless alpha-jumble name instead of becoming the next Celica. When the turbo motor comes one could smell Supra.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:51 pm

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I've had my new car for about two weeks after trading in the ute. This time I've got a 2012 FPV GS. Got it as a demo model so saved a bit. It has been lots of fun. Its got a Supercharged 5.0L "Coyote" engine making 315kW & ZF 6 speed auto, 19" alloys etc. Having trouble trying to wipe the grin from my face.

Its a bit dirty at the moment. Spending time driving it rather than washing it. Also the weather is crappy over here so i'll get some better shots when the weather and light improves.

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This is a great looking car and from the looks of it a blast to drive. Your old "ute" I'd classify likewise. Aussies have some great cars from the pics you've posted Monts.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:02 pm

Any guess as to the closest chassis analogue here in the US? Sorta looks like a Fusion and if Ford offered a RWD Fusion with that motor Mustang sales would evaporate.

Oh, I get it now. :wink:
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:31 pm

Nah, there will still be purists that will not want the extra doors.
 
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:32 pm

The closest relative would probably be the 1970 Falcon.

The closest chassis analogue... maybe the Lincoln LS? But they're completely separate evolutions...
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:37 pm

Captain Ned wrote:
Any guess as to the closest chassis analogue here in the US? Sorta looks like a Fusion and if Ford offered a RWD Fusion with that motor Mustang sales would evaporate.

Oh, I get it now. :wink:


I was thinking a Fusion myself.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:13 pm

I thought Fusion too when I first saw it. It wasn't until it got to the engine images that I realized who had posted it.

I finally got around to taking a few pictures of my car. With my phone. So I only have two, and they don't look great, but I think the car looks good.

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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:48 pm

rogue426 wrote:

This is a great looking car and from the looks of it a blast to drive. Your old "ute" I'd classify likewise. Aussies have some great cars from the pics you've posted Monts.

It is a blast to drive. Started to get really disappointed with empty roads as normally there is a truck or caravan that needs overtaking. Currently there is a severe lack of opportunities to unleash the supercharger :)
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:14 am

I like everything about the Genesis Coupe except for whatever happened to the rear side window.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:24 am

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2002 Saturn sl. Yes the really cheap one. It's paid for and does great on gas, so i love it. Minimal maintenance other than replacing the clutch at 70k.I'm thinking the previous owner was either a horrible driver or rough on it.

When it's nice out and i finally got my new tires on i drive a 2007 Ninja 650r. Shiny red! Maybe I'll find some pics and add them later.

That's hilarious... I had one of those too, when Saturn was closing out the model to make room for the (failed) Ion. Got 0% APR on the loan. It was an SL, only 2 options- air conditioning and a CD player! Manual windows, no cruise control, no nothing but a 5-speed stick and a CD player.

But it was great on gas! 40 highway easily, and it was a comfy drive. Funniest thing about it was that the SL just didn't exist. When trying to get insurance, or anything else, no one had it in their databases, only the SL1 or SL2!
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:56 pm

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Great choice and I hope you enjoy it! Also, post pics!

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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:37 pm

And they put the real rear suspension in those, not the crappy solid beam (seriously, VW, that's not a twist beam. Look under a damn Mk4 or older to find a twist beam) that they put in the normal Jettas.

IIRC, the hybrids are getting the same, European-level trim (a base Euro-market Jetta has the soft touch surfaces and IRS of the GLI, even in 1.2 turbo form). But the TDIs, 2.5s, and 2.sl0s do without.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:38 pm

2005 Toyota Sienna. Champagne colored, so pretty much the ubiquitous soccer mom van. Hoping to get something sporty-ish (but probably won't) in a year or two.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:25 pm

Does no one here drive a classic? My car turns 25 this month -- a 1987 Mercedes 300E. Utterly reliable, and he looks great. I do not hesitate to put 300 or 400 miles on him in a day.
 
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:50 pm

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Does no one here drive a classic? My car turns 25 this month -- a 1987 Mercedes 300E. Utterly reliable, and he looks great. I do not hesitate to put 300 or 400 miles on him in a day.


I think my 93 Mark VIII is a classic. 100,000 miles and still goes 220 Km/h and change, no problem. That's about 140 mph.
I have plans for this one. Expensive plans. ;)

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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:46 pm

If I were a lottery winner, I'd go with something like this:
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But in real life my ride is something a little more normal.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:20 am

ShadowEyez wrote:
But in real life my ride is something a little more normal.

Pics, or it didn't happen might be a tricycle! :P
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:24 am

ShadowEyez wrote:
If I were a lottery winner, I'd go with something like this:
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But in real life my ride is something a little more normal.


I agree completely. A Bugatti Veyron would be super fun.

But for now I'll have to settle for my 2002 Acura TL.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:35 am

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I agree completely. A Bugatti Veyron would be super fun.

Especially in that TRON-ish look.

Hmm, Veyron with Quorra in the passenger seat. I'd take on the whole Grid in that combo.
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Re: What are you driving RIGHT NOW?

Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:27 am

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