SpartanCaptain wrote:So I am looking to buy or get built a 1000yd gun. The caliber I think I am going to go with is .243. Price wise its shootable and according to what I have read they are pretty accurate at that range. So I was curious if anyone knows some good sites that have .243 parts available and that I will not be waiting over a month for parts. Or if anyone knows any rifles that would be a good one to start with.
What chamber? .243 winchester, 6mm dasher, 6mm BR, 240 weatherby magnum, Some short magnum, etc.
What are you shooting? IBS, NBRSA, PA, NC, or Hobby. Or is it a 1000yd gun you have to hold? What is your weight or length limit? is there a barrel size limit?
I have Rem 700 actions, 40x, Hall, stolle, time precision, and Win 70 actions, and win 70 push feed is by far the best stock action to use. Rem700 is total junk out of the box.
An off the shelf gun for 1,000 yards ain't gonna happen unless its a custom shop and then you better make sure its a 1,000 yard smith that actually shoots 1,000 yds.
What weight bullet you want to shoot? That will determine your twist rate in the barrel and there will be a small range of bullets that will shoot in the barrel.
Honestly, its been 20 + years since I considered a factory gun for anything, so I don't know much about them. I buy them, take them down, use the action and throw the rest away, so I buy the cheapest gun available to get the action I want.
Most people that shoot factory guns at our matches shoot .300 ultras or old military stuff. A factory 10 twist 243 winchester would maybe stabilize an 80 grain berger at 1,000 yds. An 8 twist barrel would be better.
Wheatherby..... not a chance... no custom triggers overpriced overrated. virtually no extraction.
Remington.... suicide trigger. junk extractor, less than .050" extraction. tons of aftermarket support, multiple triggers available, needs replacement recoil lug and extractor for 1,000 yard service. never will be safe.... leave the bolt open till on target.
Custom actions. Hall, Stolle, Time precision, Nesika bay, BAT, and on and on.... most don't have bolt safety and don't have much extraction. some have cone bolt which in nice. I don't like a sako extractor, I like a sliding plate, but anything is better than a remington clip extractor. most all will fit a rem style trigger so a good trigger can be had.
Mauser style actions.. lots of extraction, some good safeties, slow lock times, not much trigger selection, massive claw extractors.
Win model 70 push feed... My favorite.. integral strong recoil lug, three position firing pin bolt based safety.. fire, load/unload with pin blocked, and bolt locked down safe., jewel trigger available with three springs for 1.5 oz to 8lb trigger., plenty of scope mount options, sliding plate extractor, and plenty of extraction. This is a military style action, so the lock time is some slower. a titanium firing pin and spring help, but generally I don't because the titanium firing pins give trouble. this action needs receiver face, bolt face, lug abutment, and lug truing(as do all factory actions).
Savage actions... good factory, but not a lot of aftermarket support. multiple piece bolt works but is different not good or bad you just have to get used to the lost motion.
You could go buy a factory gun used with a decent stock on it, have it rebarreled, have the action trued, pillar bed the stock,install a good trigger, and end up with a serviceable shooter capable of 5" or so at 1,000 yds. Its going to take probably the better part of a year to get it going. A custom barrel is 6 months to get, (you might luck up and get a shelf barrel), the barrel has to be installed, the stock has to be worked, you need some 25 MOA tapered scope mounts, the mounts have to be lapped in.
I have some experience shooting .243 at 1,000 yds, but most of my chambers are 30-06 based. customized 243 super rock chucker. I shoot the .243 case on my .22. 22-243 middlestead. again its customized with less case taper and matching die reamer.
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