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TheEmrys wrote:TurtlePerson2 wrote:TheEmrys wrote:Now if Disney were to release original theatrical releases of all Star Was, ESB, and RotJ, I will take this as a sign that everything is well and right in the world.
Didn't George Lucas say that he had lost (destroyed) the originals and therefore we could never go back to them?
Even if this is true, there are so many ways they could release them again. Shoot, just get me the laserdisk version on DVD and I'd be satisfied. Blu-Ray and I'd be ecstatic.
jweller wrote:After the horror that was the three prequels hopefully George Lucas won't be directing. His directing sensibilities are still stuck in 1976.
TheEmrys wrote:Uh, it's been out since 2006, it is indeed a direct rip from the 1993 laserdiscs, and the quality is poor unless you're watching on a 27" CRT television. Put those puppies on a modern LCD or plasma of any appreciatable size, and you'll be bombarded with aliasing artifacts and other the limitations of a decades-old analog video transfer that was scrubbed to death with primitive digital noise reduction.TurtlePerson2 wrote:TheEmrys wrote:Now if Disney were to release original theatrical releases of all Star Was, ESB, and RotJ, I will take this as a sign that everything is well and right in the world.
Didn't George Lucas say that he had lost (destroyed) the originals and therefore we could never go back to them?
Even if this is true, there are so many ways they could release them again. Shoot, just get me the laserdisk version on DVD and I'd be satisfied. Blu-Ray and I'd be ecstatic.
Forge wrote:This may be true, but there's still high quality prints out there in the hands of private collectors, and even the National Film Registry has prints that may be in good enough shape to use. Personally, I believe Lucas is a loud liar when he says he has no first gen sources anymore. But the whole thing is a moot point anyway, because I really doubt that he passed all rights and control of his existing films to Disney. That would be a very un-Lucas like move. First, we all know that George isn't done tinkering yet, he never will be, damn his eyes. Second, Fox held the distribution rights for years, but Lucas decided when and what would be released, and on what formats. The deal with Disney is likely similar. Nah, George is way too much of a control freak and too shrewd of a businessman to just give it all away for a "measly" $4 billion.The original quote was that he had "cut, physically cut the negatives" when making the first SE, and there was no original first generation source left for the GOUT.
Vrock wrote:Uh, it's been out since 2006, it is indeed a direct rip from the 1993 laserdiscs, and the quality is poor unless you're watching on a 27" CRT television. Put those puppies on a modern LCD or plasma of any appreciatable size, and you'll be bombarded with aliasing artifacts and other the limitations of a decades-old analog video transfer that was scrubbed to death with primitive digital noise reduction.[/quote]Shoot, just get me the laserdisk version on DVD and I'd be satisfied. Blu-Ray and I'd be ecstatic.
clone wrote:I just don't see Joss Whedon as a good fit, he does entertaining fun, light projects very well, Buffy, Avengers, FireFly, what he doesn't do that well is dark/serious/epic projects very well, Dollhouse, Cabin In The Woods because he still wants to make light of them, his strength/his weakness.
I agree with your points but Star Wars isn't Avengers nor should it be, Avengers was light hearted and fun, I believe Star Wars should be darker and more epic and consider it's biggest failing being that the series was more popcorn epic than epic given all of the subject matter was far darker it's the pandering to infants that's grown to be the series biggest failure.
the 8 year olds that watched Star Wars have grown up, Lucas never allowed Star Wars too which is why so many were disappointed..... regarding the Star Wars Fans, they don't matter, a Star Wars fan will scream and moan from start to finish about how it shouldn't be changed, altered, tweaked, fixed, modified, cry that it is blasphemy...... and then they'll be the first to camp out in line and buy a ticket and then proceed to watch it 3 more times.
Steve Jobs said it best when he said "ppl don't know what they want, it's up to us to figure that out."
clone wrote:as an 8 year old I loved it I think I cheered when the death star exploded.... but I'm not 8 anymore, the reason the last 3 Star Wars movies were so disappointing at the box office and in the eyes of the majority of non 8 years who watched it is because the series never grew up.
Hawkwing74 wrote:Is the target audience for Star Wars 8 year olds or 38 year olds? Since this is Disney we're talking about, I think I know what the answer is.
clone wrote:I just don't see Joss Whedon as a good fit, he does entertaining fun, light projects very well, Buffy, Avengers, FireFly, what he doesn't do that well is dark/serious/epic projects very well, Dollhouse, Cabin In The Woods because he still wants to make light of them, his strength/his weakness.
Hawkwing74 wrote:The success of the original trilogy was that it appealed to both groups simultaneously. This was lost with Episode I.Is the target audience for Star Wars 8 year olds or 38 year olds?
Forge wrote:A guy called Harmy spent a LOT of time and effort making a hybrid of the Blurays and the GOUT DVDs (for what few scenes were just plain not in the Blurays), and he made a very watchable set of 720p encodes available. They're generally called "Harmy's DeSpecialized Trilogy". I actually asked why 720p quite some time ago, and I was told that 720p didn't make the DVD sections look horrible, while still letting the Bluray transfer look pretty good.
He did redo the white balance and retouched an awful lot of stuff by hand, with a laserdisc at hand to check his work. It's quite nice.
Forge wrote:I still have the Star Wars Trilogy definitive collection boxed LaserDisc set... and a working LaserDisc player.It's commonly referred to in my circles as the GOUT, I believe Grand Old Unedited Trilogy. The DVD images are widely circulated, simply because Lucas works so hard to make that not so.
A guy called Harmy spent a LOT of time and effort making a hybrid of the Blurays and the GOUT DVDs (for what few scenes were just plain not in the Blurays), and he made a very watchable set of 720p encodes available. They're generally called "Harmy's DeSpecialized Trilogy". I actually asked why 720p quite some time ago, and I was told that 720p didn't make the DVD sections look horrible, while still letting the Bluray transfer look pretty good.
He did redo the white balance and retouched an awful lot of stuff by hand, with a laserdisc at hand to check his work. It's quite nice.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I still have the Star Wars Trilogy definitive collection boxed LaserDisc set... and a working LaserDisc player.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I find fewer and fewer reasons to keep lasersdisc stuff as the years go by. I sold both of my players a couple of years ago, as LD just didn't cut it on large HDTVs. As for Star Wars, the official DVD bonus discs are far superior to the LDs with regards to video quality. Those old LDs you have are CAV discs too, which means 30 minutes per side and then flipping the disc. No thanks. On the plus side, the LDs do have a very nice PCM soundtrack that's better than the 192kps Dolby Digital 2.0 on the DVDs, but other than that, eh. Either release probably looks about the same on an old CRT TV, but nobody's watching those these days.Forge wrote:I still have the Star Wars Trilogy definitive collection boxed LaserDisc set... and a working LaserDisc player.It's commonly referred to in my circles as the GOUT, I believe Grand Old Unedited Trilogy. The DVD images are widely circulated, simply because Lucas works so hard to make that not so.
A guy called Harmy spent a LOT of time and effort making a hybrid of the Blurays and the GOUT DVDs (for what few scenes were just plain not in the Blurays), and he made a very watchable set of 720p encodes available. They're generally called "Harmy's DeSpecialized Trilogy". I actually asked why 720p quite some time ago, and I was told that 720p didn't make the DVD sections look horrible, while still letting the Bluray transfer look pretty good.
He did redo the white balance and retouched an awful lot of stuff by hand, with a laserdisc at hand to check his work. It's quite nice.
tanker27 wrote:So...they're pretty good at first glance, yes. There's flaws, though, that are unavoidable given the numerous sources used to create these encodes. The spliced in scenes are obvious, and the encode has compression artifacts (understandable given his desire to squeeze 720p video onto a DVD9 disc. They could have been better if he used less compression and went for a blu-ray sized file instead. It was free, so I ain't bitching, but all things considered, the official Blu-rays are far superior, and frankly the offical 2004 DVDs are just as good if not better for many scenes.Forge wrote:A guy called Harmy spent a LOT of time and effort making a hybrid of the Blurays and the GOUT DVDs (for what few scenes were just plain not in the Blurays), and he made a very watchable set of 720p encodes available. They're generally called "Harmy's DeSpecialized Trilogy". I actually asked why 720p quite some time ago, and I was told that 720p didn't make the DVD sections look horrible, while still letting the Bluray transfer look pretty good.
He did redo the white balance and retouched an awful lot of stuff by hand, with a laserdisc at hand to check his work. It's quite nice.
Forge.....these are OUT-FREAKING-TASTIC!
This guy put in a lot of work, and scrubbing scrubbing. It makes me wonder if he had access to some ultra high end equipment.
clone wrote:I will recommend Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog.seen almost all of Joss Whedon's work save for the sing along blog