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Don't Copy That Floppy!!!

Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:15 pm

Old anti-copy propaganda :D


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Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:19 pm

LMAO!
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:33 pm

:lol: how the times change, now with the TCPA emerging to stop a battle that cannot be won only create FUD among the computer enthusist communtiy
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:36 pm

Where is the Don't copy that CD rap? :lol:
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Re: Don't Copy That Floppy!!!

Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:47 pm

--k wrote:
Old anti-copy propaganda :D


http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php ... 8&f_id=723

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Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:48 pm

It's old, a little lame, but its true, pirated software ultimately cost everybody more in the long run. It adds to the to the cost of your and my purchase by increasing developement costs for more and better copy protection. I know all the arguments about copy protection code, that none has been written yet that can't be cracked/ hacked etc.

Developers of software have to take into consideration lost sales due to copying, and try to estimate thoes losses, so that they can set a price that will allow them to make a profit on thier investment. This little video points this all out, and a few more reasons also.

Bottom line is its "ILLEGAL" and it costs all of us "MONEY"
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:50 pm

It was like ..."don't copy that floppy because it's unethical and destroys the computer industry".

Now it's like... "don't copy that floppy... or else I'll sue yer ass".

You can say it's old and lame, but I preferred the style back then.

Those kids were probably my age, and now I'm the age of the "adults". I feel so old at 26...
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:55 pm

http://static.hugi.is/video/fyndin/dctf-1.wmv

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Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:06 pm

That video kicked ass. 8)
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:50 pm

I liked the "cutting edge game" neverwinter nights......It is amazing how far games have come in the last 10 years.
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:18 pm

Don't copy that floppy!!!

Maybe, if no-one uses the damn things anymore, we can get rid of floppy drives, and make DVD-RW's a standard...

Now that would be a revolution in computing :-D,
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:20 pm

True, but you do still need them to install storage drivers when you install XP. I do not think that we will get rid of the easily, as many people still use them.
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:29 pm

Hopefully they'll do *SOMETHING*, *ANYTHING* to get rid of floppies in Longhorn...

Bill, are you listening... get some kind of support in your next OS for installation by cd... I don't care how you do it... but c'mon, floppies can barely store two decent quality A4 jpeg images, let alone the masses of storage we have these days...

Give me one use for them that is exclusive to floppies... and no, we can get USB to work on DOS, so we can get drives to work on them too hopefully, I don't buy that...

Besides that fact, they're probably the least reliable media I've ever seen, I've had so many disks get stuck in drives, or have the spring mechanism break (I've fixed about 5 in the last year, and they weren't mine, I don't use them anymore), or have some sort of corrupt error...

Not only that, but they make my computer grind to a halt for hours on end (okay, I'm exagerating, but only a little :-D)...

Better still, replace them with Minidisc! You could have a cd capacity (and I don't doubt they could get more today, if they re-invented the MD standards), in a disk smaller than your mp3 player...

Damn savage technology,
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:55 pm

IntelMole wrote:
Hopefully they'll do *SOMETHING*, *ANYTHING* to get rid of floppies in Longhorn...

Bill, are you listening... get some kind of support in your next OS for installation by cd... I don't care how you do it... but c'mon, floppies can barely store two decent quality A4 jpeg images, let alone the masses of storage we have these days...


You can install off of the windows cd already. And what's stopping you from not having a floppy drive installed?
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:00 pm

heck I still have a 5.25 disk drive installed for nostalgia's sake. sitting right next to my Commodore 64 1541...
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:02 pm

--k wrote:
IntelMole wrote:
Hopefully they'll do *SOMETHING*, *ANYTHING* to get rid of floppies in Longhorn...

Bill, are you listening... get some kind of support in your next OS for installation by cd... I don't care how you do it... but c'mon, floppies can barely store two decent quality A4 jpeg images, let alone the masses of storage we have these days...


You can install off of the windows cd already. And what's stopping you from not having a floppy drive installed?


Huh? You can???? How???? I was so sure that DOS doesn't recognise the CD drives... and that was what you needed the floppies for...
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:05 pm

Most of the newer bioses can be made to boot from a cd or even over a LAN... I don't know when they started doing that but I remember doing that with Win2k and up.
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:08 pm

Shows how long I've had this PC :roll:

Well then, that's one less reason to use floppies...

Especially when e-mail is more convenient (for me at least...),
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:16 pm

You need a floppy drive if you have a Serial ATA drive on a fresh XP installation, IIRC. Kinds funny that you need such old-tech to install the latest tech :)
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:22 pm

Like Starfalcon said, though you can boot off of CDs to install the OS, drivers for many 3rd party controllers aren't recognized by the 2k or XP CD, and need to be loaded at the very beginning of the OS installation. Your only option is to install these from a floppy, you don't get a menu with a choice to select a CD.

Example, when I install XP on my Abit KD7-G, the XP Pro CD does not have drivers for the onboard SI SATA controller, so I have to tap F6 at the very beginning of the install to be prompted to load the drivers. After windows loads some other files, it will prompts me to insert a floppy with the driver. That way I can install the OS on my WD Raptor, otherwise I would have to wait until I get the OS loaded to install a driver for the controller in Windows.

I do hope Longhorn will let you choose multiple locations. I will be suprised if it doesn't.
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:26 pm

HowardDrake wrote:
You need a floppy drive if you have a Serial ATA drive on a fresh XP installation, IIRC. Kinds funny that you need such old-tech to install the latest tech :)


I take so long to post, Howard posts with a much shorter version of my example... :)

I'm suprised LS120's never really took off. Since they read floppies and Superdisks and are faster than floppy drives, you'd think they would've been more popular.

Heck all the PCs in my shop have them instead of 1.44s.
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:39 pm

emkubed wrote:
I take so long to post, Howard posts with a much shorter version of my example... :)


Just doing my part for education :D And it would be nice if you could use a Zip drive for it as well, I have a couple of those around here, or better yet a USB Flash device, everything nowadays has USB on it :)
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 8:30 pm

emkubed wrote:
Like Starfalcon said, though you can boot off of CDs to install the OS, drivers for many 3rd party controllers aren't recognized by the 2k or XP CD, and need to be loaded at the very beginning of the OS installation. Your only option is to install these from a floppy, you don't get a menu with a choice to select a CD.


You can install of the driver cd that comes with the hardware, all you need to do in xp is hit f6 when it is booting up the instalation

Another thing is xp recognizes all serial ata things if you have the bios set up right, and all versions of XP can boot off the cd, and!!!! you can instal a new version of bios off cd's
Lets face it Floppticals are useless as a spork well eating spam, which is darn near imposible to do!!
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Serialnuker wrote:
emkubed wrote:
Like Starfalcon said, though you can boot off of CDs to install the OS, drivers for many 3rd party controllers aren't recognized by the 2k or XP CD, and need to be loaded at the very beginning of the OS installation. Your only option is to install these from a floppy, you don't get a menu with a choice to select a CD.


You can install of the driver cd that comes with the hardware, all you need to do in xp is hit f6 when it is booting up the instalation

Another thing is xp recognizes all serial ata things if you have the bios set up right, and all versions of XP can boot off the cd, and!!!! you can instal a new version of bios off cd's
Lets face it Floppticals are useless as a spork well eating spam, which is darn near imposible to do!!


I disagree. I don't care how you set things in BIOS, it doesn't mean Windows XP has the correct drivers on the CD for a Serial ATA controller.

And unless I continuously miss something, I haven't seen where I'm supposed to select a source other than the A: drive for my 3rd party controller driver after i tap F6.

I'd be happy to be proved wrong though.
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:23 pm

It was a shame superdisks did not take off, but I think we have iomega to thank for that as they did not want anything to infringe on their holy zip territory. It had bigger capacity than the zip 100 and could read floppies also, it should have been able to replace the floppy. Another good idea on the trash heap.
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Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:07 am

My laptop dosn't have a floppy. It has winXP on it now, I've installed win98, 2k, Mandrake and Redhat all without using a floppy. It's kinda been a test rig.
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Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:51 am

Floppies are still useful for some things.... I think the last time I used a floppy was to give a NWN module I had downloaded to a friend who had no net connection... but yeah it is about time they were replaced.
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Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:39 am

HowardDrake wrote:
You need a floppy drive if you have a Serial ATA drive on a fresh XP installation, IIRC. Kinds funny that you need such old-tech to install the latest tech :)


Hahahaha..this is funny...just when i thought I'm never going to use my floppies again...
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Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:56 am

I think the last time I used a floppy was to give a NWN module I had downloaded to a friend who had no net connection...
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