I can't dispute this and more to the point that particular jab is more a disagreement with the overall handling of the series.I think one of the points it makes misses the context of episodes 1-3. It talks about having a gritty, broken-down, frontier setting but doesn't take into account that episodes 1-3 are in a time and set in locations that are supposed to be a high water mark for the universe before the 'downfall' to the empire taking place. The frontier locations might be more compelling, but the story about the downfall of the republic wouldn't have made sense if the settings were already broken down. I suppose the story could have been told differently, say by having characters discuss events like the politics in the senate rather than show the events, so maybe that's what the criticism is saying but that wouldn't have given a sense of the grandeur of the republic.
bthylafh wrote:It's inconsequential fanboy wanking.
I don't know if you grew up with the original trilogy (episodes 4-6) but I can't disagree more strongly on this element and I hope at least that the view was shared by most.Oh sure, much of the script and the acting in episodes 1-3 was B-Movie quality. But that's part of its charm
consider this alteration I'm going to offer for a moment and think about how dramatically it would have changed everything.Superjawes wrote:As soon as Anakin Skywalker appeared, everyone knew that this kid was going to become Darth Vader. On top of that, it restricted the storytelling
at the very least it would have made sense, that love story was so clumsy, so broken, it was agony.Well...that escalated quickly...
That's definitely a twist that would have changed everything after that, but I don't think it's necessary, nor does it fit with where Vader's story ends in RotJ. "There's still good in him." However, I do like the idea of Anakin and Vader being two separate personalities to some degree.
clone wrote:at the very least it would have made sense, that love story was so clumsy, so broken, it was agony.
Vader coming to the front and then eventually being overcome by Anakin would have fit fine in ROTJ given how they showed Vader struggling with letting luke die at the hands of the emperor, also understand by then all the whisperings of both Palpatine and the Vader side of Anakin would truly have become hollow well ahead of time leaving only the battle within Vader to be about whether or not their was any Anakin left and if so was he really going to let his son die.
in the end the reality is the prequels were done badly and could have been done so much better.
I do agree fully the villains were wasted in the prequels, and worse for the series the replacement villains weren't very compelling..... and then they were wasted as well making it all just a mish mash...... out of dozens of bad decisions in The Phantom Menace the best one was the villain..... and then they killed him.
I've been laughing about how awkward society is about certain social taboos/crimes since I first conceived of the scene which was shortly after watching the RedLetterMedia plinkett reviews a year ago or so.I mainly just think that a rape scene in Star Wars might just go a little too far and be a little too dark.
the majority of ppl loved Star Wars in the same way the majority of ppl appear to dislike the prequels. the old debates were Star Wars vs Star Trek, the prequels moved that debate to the back burner in another state.I find it interesting that a movie I watched in its original release at age 13 can still engender such opinions.
clone wrote:the majority of ppl loved Star Wars in the same way the majority of ppl appear to dislike the prequels. the old debates were Star Wars vs Star Trek, the prequels moved that debate to the back burner in another state.I find it interesting that a movie I watched in its original release at age 13 can still engender such opinions.
Well there is the general point that violence has a much higher tolerance in American media than sex, you can show the effects of violence and still get the same effect, while cutting out an "accidental rape" scene would remove the impact such an event would have. And since the MPAA will be rating the film...it's something to be mindful of. Also, a lot of the dismemberment stuff in Star Wars is pretty sanitized.clone wrote:I've been laughing about how awkward society is about certain social taboos/crimes since I first conceived of the scene which was shortly after watching the RedLetterMedia plinkett reviews a year ago or so.
Star Wars was ok with murdering children.... it doesn't get any darker than that and I'm just starting, Star Wars was also comfy with decapitation, impaling ppl, cutting ppl in half, dismemberment, genocide, poisoning ppl, showing a guy being dismembered and then slowly being burnt alive, doing a close up of a guy as his hands and head are cutoff...... I'm not saying rape isn't crossing a line but I'm pretty sure more than a few lines were crossed in the prequels and an accidental rape tastefully done would have been far more real and far less dark.
He was okay, and another role that could have been handled better.p.s. both Liam Neeson and the Pod Racing were nothing more than filler.
Again, I'm not necessarily talking about the movies we got vs. how they could have been done betterwith regards to the pod racing, pod racing is not an instructional tool for flying.... the race was yet another huge drawn out scene created for the sake of making a huge drawn out scene, it gets even worse later in the movie as it took pains to explain that Anakin had no idea what he was doing as he pulled the conveniently sized baby helmet onto his head and flew the Naboo fighter out of the hanger bay..... filler & nothing more.
Science fiction vs Science fantasy.Seriously, Wars and Trek are completely different.
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