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slowriot wrote:Captain Ned wrote:http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/11/30/1130-paul-walker-accident-scene-car-facebook-3.jpg
This is what happens when unqualified drivers play boy racer.
Both the driver and Paul Walker had significant experience in racing. This was a tragic accident and It's disgusting people like you feel the need to disparage the dead.
clone wrote:the drugs thing was a part of the coroners comment and had nothing to do with me, actually you responded while I was deleting that part along with the rest of the fluff that I didn't consider relevant.
I raced for 15 years and no drugs aren't required to go fast, balls, logic and a focus are typically all that's required.
clone wrote:the tragedy is in how the accident affects the families of both, I feel bad for Paul Walkers dad given the interviews he's given he seems to be suffering.
clone wrote:If any average person did this, they'd be rightly condemned for being stupid. Frankly, the fact that this guy was a professional driver makes his actions even more stupid than if he was an average nobody.
yes and no, everybody likes to get preachy and assume a moral high ground when situations like this happen.
1st off this car in the parking lot thing appeared to be some kind of event...... if it was anything like the Lexus event a friend of mine went too then you probably shouldn't judge so harshly.
they'd been driving for a while and had gotten warmed up to the track as it was laid out, the Porsche was being problematic and it was decided after some discussion that a 2nd set of eyes would go along to compare notes, again I'm just going off the discussion that was had just prior but it seems reasonable enough, this wasn't so much a joy ride as a test ride. were they driving too fast for the location... sure. actually I suspect Rodas tried to drive through the issue to see how bad it was.
clone wrote:while 100mph seems fast to someone who hasn't spent quite a bit of time above it, in truth it's not half so shocking as you want to imply.So these professional drivers decided to drive a car - that was already showing handling problems - at over 100mph in an office park. Without disparaging these folks... does that seem wise to you?
clone wrote:you do realize you followed this comment with judgements and preaching right?I really don't think it has anything to do with any moral high ground.
According to every report I've seen, it happened after a fundraising event that had nothing to do with driving a car at 100mph through that particular parking lot.
actually it would depend on the event and apparently their were a number of exotic cars at it.
could it be possible ppl were paying to drive them with the proceeds going to..... charity?
Right. So these professional drivers decided to drive a car - that was already showing handling problems - at over 100mph in an office park. Without disparaging these folks... does that seem wise to you?
while 100mph seems fast to someone who hasn't spent quite a bit of time above it, in truth it's not half so shocking as you want to imply.
to be clear I do agree they made a mistake and that was unfortunate.
If I go out to my car in the morning and I see a great big bulge on the side of my tire.....
then yes you'd be a fool but we aren't talking about a bulging tire, and you aren't an experienced race driver, which is why you tried to use a bulging tire as a comparison.
it doesn't apply,
I'm quite certain neither felt the issue was potentially dangerous like say.... a broken belt would be that's causing the tire to bulge. did they make a mistake, absolutely. were either of them stupid ppl, doubtful..... it was an accident and neither you nor I have enough info to judge.
while 100mph seems fast to someone who hasn't spent quite a bit of time above it, in truth it's not half so shocking as you want to imply.
clone wrote:"reckless" is judging, preaching.
"irresponsible" is also preaching, judging......,
that said really? a possible charity event involving allowing ppl driving exotic cars around a pre determined course doesn't change anything? the Lexus event which was held in a parking lot is my rebuttal.
Actually I have plenty of information. I have pictures of a car turned into a twisted pile of burned up metal in an office complex parking lot. That tells me that whoever was driving the car was driving way too fast for an office complex parking lot. Your entire argument, such that it is, seems to be that there must be some good reason for them to have been driving like that; but no such reason exists.
you have nothing. a car turned into a twisted pile is not proof of a poor decision. something happened at 100mph, what, why, how?
clone wrote:by your logic, the act of jumping out of a perfectly functional airplane is always a horrible idea yet I've done it several times as do thousands of others every day.
Captain Ned wrote:Why have you spent so many posts failing to accept the notion that the choices they made at that moment were bad choices that came back to kill them? Why do you keep making excuses for their actions? None of us are rejoicing in the deaths, just pointing out the utter and needless stupidity that caused them. When your death is essentially a "hold my beer, watch this" event there are no excuses, yet you keep concocting same for any scenario put forward.
1: because I don't believe the choices were stupid, 2: because I know everyone in the world has made mistakes in one form or another and it bothers me greatly when others who know nothing of the specifics will immediately wrap it into a nice tidy package and call it stupidity.
they weren't stupid, I suspect they like everyone else in the world made a mistake.
clone wrote:my boss used to rag on me about how fast I rode my bikes, he talked about how 2 of his friends went out one night and drove their car into.... I don't know something. anyway they hit so hard and violently that the driveshaft went thought the passenger.
Khali wrote:Wow, I had not seen the term grok used in years. I almost forgot about it.
just brew it! wrote:clone wrote:the tragedy is in how the accident affects the families of both, I feel bad for Paul Walkers dad given the interviews he's given he seems to be suffering.
A parent should not outlive their children. I hope that I never get to experience that. (I have three kids.)
clone wrote:the life jacket, which he demanded his son wear. sure enough he succumbed to the cold and sank into the lake to be found a few days later.
very unfortunate, tragic and no he wasn't stupid.
by your logic, the act of jumping out of a perfectly functional airplane is always a horrible idea yet I've done it several times as do thousands of others every day.
I doubt you want to see my side but that's fine if you don't.
ludi wrote:Okay, SOMEone has to go there, so:
Q.) What's the difference between this thread and Paul Walker?