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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:24 am

Makes sense to me. All these wild theories.......
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:26 am

tanker27 wrote:Makes sense to me. All these wild theories.......

The only problem is that the supposed path for the fire theory doesn't match the two arcs plotted from the last SATCOM ping.
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:42 am

ludi wrote:Possible bad news for the conspiracy theorists: an experienced pilot decided to try out Occam's Razor and came up with this theory at Wired Magazine, suggesting that the cause was simply a landing gear fire mistaken for an electrical fire, or else an actual electrical fire, and that everything following is consistent with an emergency landing attempt that was derailed when the flight crew was overcome with toxic smoke.


I read the article and found where Mr. Goodfellow says:

Chris Goodfellow wrote:Evidently the ACARS went inoperative some time before. Disabling the ACARS is not easy, as pointed out. This leads me to believe more in an electrical problem or an electrical fire than a manual shutdown. I suggest the pilots probably were not aware ACARS was not transmitting.
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Not sure about this -- the images posted by SecretSquirrel seem to imply that this system can be accessed without much trouble?

Also, for whatever the opinion of another "experienced" pilot on the internet is worth, someone wrote a rebuttal of Mr. Goodfellow's points.

Until more evidence is found/shared with the public, we're destined to be stuck in the theory->debunk->theory... loop.
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:16 am

Australia has satellite images showing something, but we will have to wait and see if it is wreckage of the plane or some other debris in the ocean.
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:20 am

A lot of news outlets are already jumping the gun and are calling it the wreckage of the plane.
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:26 pm

And it was nothing
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:29 am

All the available evidence now points to an emergency on board the plane, a sharp turn and rapid decent back towards Malaysia.

An under inflated tire could have easily caught fire on takeoff. This was a hot evening with a long runway and heavy load. A slow burning tire can create a lot of incapacitating smoke. Passengers may have alerted flight attendants something was wrong. The pilots donned oxygen masks as visibility diminished. The captain flew the plane while the co-pilot ran down an emergency checklist including pulling circuit breakers to isolate the problem.

This happened before on a Nigerian DC8. Just like this flight, it took an hour for the smoke to reach the cabin. Pilots never made communication with the ground. They are taught to aviate, navigate then communicate.

This captain knew instinctively where to land. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. The captain did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport. Thai and Malaysian military radar showed the plane turned back, fisherman saw a large plane flying low in that direction, and Vietnamese radar never picked up the plane.

Unfortunately the pilots were overtaken by smoke before they could land the plane. The tire burned itself out. The plane continued on autopilot until it ran out of gas as confirmed by satellite data. We wouldn't have all these assets searching the Indian Ocean if we weren't sure about the location. The US probably has more information that corroborated this route than they disclosed. I feel bad for the families of the pilots. These guys did everything they could to save the plane and passengers. Until we find something to prove otherwise, we should give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:48 pm

NOVA has a new episode titled "Why Planes Vanish" that focuses specifically on Malaysian Flight 370. They follow the evidence trail to date and why it seems to point to a hijacking. The evidence looks to be fairly strong for the hijacking case, but I find it stunning just how much info they gleaned from a basic satcom handshake signal. Particularly given other factors involved such as the Geosat was operating past it's rated lifetime and so was wobbling in its orbit due to minimal fuel reserves. Anyone interested in this topic or aviation security in general would enjoy the show.

There's some other stunning information in the video I'd never heard of before regarding airplane security in general. A Brazilian airline apparently created a tour video of one of its commercial 777's during an actual flight, and that video includes the engineering & electronics bay. For 777's this bay by default has no lock mechanism and the hatch is under the carpet in the forward galley. The biggest thing was a terminal box in the bay that can be used for direct systems access, anyone can use it to override the cockpit systems and actually lock out the cockpit. From there it's simple to give the computer flight commands or direct the autopilot itself to fly the plane where they want via the terminal. As with any commercial aviation equipment anyone can buy of these right off ebay to play with. Key parts of the video itself are on youtube and available for anyone to buy.

The engineering bay had some other surprises. Apparently there is a breaker that if tripped will cut power to the cockpit door. This automatically unlocks the cockpit door in any standard 777. While climbing down into the bay the person also has to walk right by two large oxygen tanks that directly feed the pilot and co-pilot's masks, it'd be as easy as turning off a garden hose to shut down the feed. The Malaysian flight did not follow US security guidelines so it was vulnerable to any of these attack methods, but it seriously makes me wonder about US flights now. Boeing does sell an optional lock kit for the hatch but reportedly few customers elect to buy and install them.
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Re: Flight 370

Postposted on Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:12 pm

Nah, the best part of a 777 is the crew Love Shack up in the ceiling above the rest of us.

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