Minecraft

[thegleek]

I seriously wonder how they could not have gotten a competent C++ programmer to help them port it over. It's such a popular game! Does everybody need to configure custom start scripts to enlarge the VM size in order to not freeze like I just tossed my machine in the bathtub? That's just absurd.

See: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topic ... craft_with
and: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/402 ... raft-to-c/

[APWNH]

Most of the posts in those discussions are really off the mark, but whatever. Okay, so they didn't think it would be a good idea to do a C++ port.

Why didn't they just set up a little installer to make a shortcut for you that requests some more memory for Java like your little batch file does? Assuming that giving it up to 2GB will solve this freezing issue (which as far as I'm concerned is a showstopper level issue because it makes the game *unplayable*). You don't have to port a damn thing, just make a shortcut to get around the JVM's limitations which cause the game to become unplayable.

Well after a whole lot of tweaking I gave up on my 32 bit JRE (which has Eclipse functioning just fine) and installed 64 bit. That also allows me to allocate more than 1.5GB so I'm running it with a heap ceiling of 3GB now and it's been going smooth. The frame timing graph is also much more consistent.

[thegleek]

When it comes to popular PC games, Blizzard Entertainment's World of Warcraft has long been the benchmark by virtue of its one-time claim of 12 million subscribers. As of September 30th, the company reported that its sub numbers had decreased, but still stood at 10.3 million, which is nothing to sneeze at. There's a new sheriff in town, however: On January 14th, Minecraft creator Markus Persson (aka Notch) reported via Twitter that his game, which only left beta and became a full release as of November, had 20 million registered users. Persson's Tweet also pointed out that if each subscriber weighed 70kg, the total weight of the game's players would equal 25% of the weight of the Great Pyramid of Giza. That's most likely not the comparison we would have gone with -- and not just because we don't know what a kilogram is -- but thanks to Minecraft's runaway success we suppose Persson can pretty much write whatever he likes on Twitter.

[APWNH]

That's the worst analogy ever. Maybe he had just got back from a trip to the pyramids.

Turns out with the 64bit java i never saw the game use much more than 200MB of its heap and no more lag spikes. Obviously some bug or errant GC behavior caused the other JVM to crash and burn when running the game. This experience of mine just demonstrates why java is a horrible platform for gaming. It's a system that defers the cleanup of memory so that it can and will be done later, so that your animations could be interrupted, and you can't even do anything about it.

[drfish]

I probably should have posted this earlier but a PM just reminded me... I am sad to report that due to an incident involving the word "penis" being spelled out in blocks near my nephews' house we decided to limit the server to family only to avoid my family-in-law needing to start a separate server for us to play with them on. Sorry.

[thegleek]

I probably should have posted this earlier but a PM just reminded me... I am sad to report that due to an incident involving the word "penis" being spelled out in blocks near my nephews' house we decided to limit the server to family only to avoid my family-in-law needing to start a separate server for us to play with them on. Sorry.

AW MAN! i was wondering why I wasn't on the whitelist when I tried to log in recently...

[just brew it!]

I probably should have posted this earlier but a PM just reminded me... I am sad to report that due to an incident involving the word "penis" being spelled out in blocks near my nephews' house we decided to limit the server to family only to avoid my family-in-law needing to start a separate server for us to play with them on. Sorry.

AW MAN! i was wondering why I wasn't on the whitelist when I tried to log in recently...

So were you the one who spelled "penis"?

[thegleek]

nope. haven't signed on to MC in months. haven't been on fish's server longer...

[drfish]

No worries, it wasn't anyone from TR. Sadly there's no amount of "I trust these guys" that will convince a protective mother things are safe after an incident like that.

[just brew it!]

...and it's not like those kids are never gonna see the word "penis" anywhere else. I mean, WTF... it's the clinical term, not in the least bit obscene.

[thegleek]

lol @ JBI, I agree!

It seems this phenomenon is pretty common (note: potential NSFW, the following images are of the word PENIS spelled out in pixelated blocks):

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lww4t ... o1_500.png

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/15/21979000/n ... c8c392.jpg

http://screensnapr.com/e/Sqyb5C.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/25 ... s.png/sr=1

[drfish]

She understands that of course - it was more a problem of it causing her to realize her kids we're playing in a server with adults that might not be great a censoring themselves (I would argue that in the context of a Minecraft server "penis" is indeed obscene). ...but I've almost said "f***" in front of them multiple times, its easy to slip-up... We're talking about a 4 year old and a 7 year old BTW, they can read the chat log pretty well...

[thegleek]

We're talking about a 4 year old and a 7 year old BTW, they can read the chat log pretty well...

yeah... but really. in today's online society - how do you really prevent them from seeing all that is bad? we're talking 90%+ of the internet is adult-themed.

[drfish]

How? Well by measures such as the one we've taken for one.

Also they don't get free access to the internet. Of course when they are on YouTube or something they are always looking up Minecraft videos...

[thegleek]

Of course when they are on YouTube or something they are always looking up Minecraft videos...

and 50%+ of those minecraft videos are vulgar/adult-oriented.

[drfish]

Indeed. Oh well.

[Captain Ned]

Indeed. Oh well.

Insufficiently monitored teenagers.

[5150]

Is anybody running a Minecraft server I can get on?

[thegleek]

Is anybody running a Minecraft server I can get on?

yep, minecraft.thegleek.com, standard port open for all

and ironically, it's running off of the ugly green linux server that I purchased from JBI at the TRBBQ!

Note: This is a vanilla server running with NO mods, no BUKKIT, nada... No ops either, not even me. Any other questions, just ask.

[thegleek]

no takers? i have another server running on bukkit if you prefer plugins, mods, and all that crap.

[Cyco-Dude]

no takers? i have another server running on bukkit if you prefer plugins, mods, and all that crap.

i would, but i'm not going to bother looking up what the "standard" minecraft server port is to log on. if you're going to post an ip, post the entire ip.

[drfish]

Umm, if you don't specify a port it uses the default port, wait for it... ...by default (its 25565 BTW).

[thegleek]

no takers? i have another server running on bukkit if you prefer plugins, mods, and all that crap.

i would, but i'm not going to bother looking up what the "standard" minecraft server port is to log on. if you're going to post an ip, post the entire ip.

Um... meaning you DON' T need to put in a port in the server add... jeez o pete's, you'd think we have smart people on this forum. Allow me to ELI5 it:

[5150]

I signed in once Gleek (and thank you for the invite) but it seemed too laggy to me, not sure if it was just my location or your servers hardware, but it was probably me, not you.

[Cyco-Dude]

Umm, if you don't specify a port it uses the default port, wait for it... ...by default (its 25565 BTW).

ok, i tried it this morning and said it was invalid or something. maybe it wasn't up then? idk...

[thegleek]

Umm, if you don't specify a port it uses the default port, wait for it... ...by default (its 25565 BTW).

ok, i tried it this morning and said it was invalid or something. maybe it wasn't up then? idk...

It's up 24/7/365. Next time you experience an issue, please post a screenshot.

Here's 2 random users from today, from my log file (I removed IP addresses and x/y/z location in the game):

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2012-09-19 08:21:55 [INFO] blorbic logged in with entity id 162191
2012-09-19 09:23:12 [WARNING] blorbic moved wrongly!
2012-09-19 09:45:48 [INFO] blorbic lost connection: disconnect.quitting
2012-09-19 11:01:24 [INFO] blorbic logged in with entity id 173477
2012-09-19 11:24:58 [INFO] blorbic lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
2012-09-19 11:27:56 [INFO] blorbic logged in with entity id 177043
2012-09-19 11:33:58 [WARNING] blorbic moved wrongly!
2012-09-19 11:43:13 [INFO] blorbic lost connection: disconnect.quitting

and

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2012-09-19 14:14:53 [INFO] DLHM logged in with entity id 187495
2012-09-19 14:26:16 [INFO] <DLHM> howdy
2012-09-19 14:35:33 [INFO] <DLHM> this is my first time ine multiplayer
2012-09-19 14:35:45 [INFO] <DLHM> what keeps one user from breaking other users stuff?
2012-09-19 14:36:06 [INFO] <DLHM> techreport?
2012-09-19 14:36:40 [INFO] <DLHM> ok thk
2012-09-19 14:39:47 [INFO] DLHM lost connection: disconnect.quitting

[DLHM]

Lol random user...

edit: I decided to try out multiplayer after seeing this post yesterday..

[thegleek]

Lol random user...

edit: I decided to try out multiplayer after seeing this post yesterday..

ah cool! to answer your question:

what keeps one user from breaking other users stuff?

nothing really, since I stated it's a vanilla MC server, I am running no "mods/plugins/bukkit" that usually is set up to prevent or hinder grievers.

I do have another server (running bukkit with plugins) that has been running for years, but it's sitting idle now, since vanilla mc server is so much more fun!

[thegleek]

I just wanted to send everyone an update that the world map is now available online at:

http://minecraft.thegleek.com:8080/

Any questions, please feel free to ask away!

Enjoy!

[thegleek]

lol @

2012-10-25 10:01:44 [INFO] Disconnecting xSHOESx [/xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:58634]: Outdated server!

Holy carp... They released v1.4.2!!! Gunna install soon!!!

Ninja: v1.4.2 is now installed.