crazybus wrote:The MB Pro has a too high entry price point for an affordable portable A/V workstation.
derFunkenstein wrote:everyone freaked out over lack of floppy and SCSI support in the iMac, too.
SNM: Your reasoning about TDM being a problem is kind of flawed - Time machine requires an extra disk, but TDM requires a whole other computer.
Flying Fox wrote:crazybus wrote:The MB Pro has a too high entry price point for an affordable portable A/V workstation.
Market segmentation at its best.
I've actually known quite a few people who've done video editing on a macbook. Granted, it's in no way ideal, but for folks who are just editing SD and can't afford two machines or need the portability of a notebook, it makes some sense.axeman wrote:Flying Fox wrote:crazybus wrote:The MB Pro has a too high entry price point for an affordable portable A/V workstation.
Market segmentation at its best.
I'll add when was "affordable portable A/V workstation" a market segment that ever existed? If you want a laptop for video editing, you obviously have too much disposable income. Seriously, what's with the laptop love affair? Ergonomically, laptops suck. Not to mention, you're going to need a bigger display for anything serious anyhow, so you're already part way there to buying a second machine. Serious computing demands a desktop.
riviera74 wrote:sounds exactly right with one addition: use TM to transfer your old data onto your new HDD.
ssidbroadcast wrote:Question, slightly related, but lets say you're a Macbook owner and you have an external disk w/ Time Machine enabled, and you're thinking about upgrading that 80GB hard drive to something bigger.
How do you upgrade to your new harddrive? I'm merely guessing :
- Install new hard drive into external case that Time Machine hard drive (hereon: TM) is in. Plug in new hard drive.
- Format using Disk Utility the new hard drive in HFS+
- Profit from using new hard drive but with all your account info, settings, and files from before.
derFunkenstein wrote:There are those who are lamenting what appears to be the end of Target Disk Mode, or who have Firewire audio/video interfaces. To the first people, I say "that's what Time Machine is for". To the second people, I have to believe they're "pros" (or at least fancy themselves as the people that Apple refers to as "prosumers") and I say get a MBP. It's not a big deal to me becuase I have nothing Firewire anymore.
derFunkenstein wrote:well, buy your next machine now. I think you're going to see it disappear from at least certain iMacs at MacWorld (and probably the Mini, too). When USB 3.0 becomes standard, you'll see Firewire disappear entirely across the range - pro Macs included.
Apple has shown a tendency in the Jobs II era to dump things a little early. Floppy drives, onboard SCSI, legacy serial ports...and that was just the iMac, and not even 5 months after the iMac shipped, the blue G3 tower did the same thing.
Also, we need to note: for many folks, the difference between "fast enough" and "faster still" isn't worth an added cost. Adding an Express card slot and paying for a FW chipset would be an added cost.
crazybus wrote: The MB Pro has a too high entry price point for an affordable portable A/V workstation.
riviera74 wrote:Last week, I went to my local Apple store and actually SAW the new MacBooks and MacBook Pros. What truly disappoints me is the lack of Firewire support (of any kind, FW400 or FW800) on the MacBooks. Otherwise I would say that the new MacBooks are a grand slam and the MBPs are a solid double.
So what do you think?
derFunkenstein wrote:Thresher, your response is well thought-out, and I understand where you're coming from, but we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not entirely sure I *support* the decision to remove Firewire. As I said before, I don't own any firewire devices anymore so it doesn't really affect me. An Express Card slot would be nice, but even the 12" PowerBook was lacking PCMCIA, so "doing away with it" and "never adding it to begin with" is a fine line.
What I don't think is arguable is that if Firewire had been present on the Macbook, that $5 chip and whatever pennies + design changed required for adding the port would have been at a cost to the consumer. The entry-level Macbook keeps it, I think, because it's cheaper to not change anything. The aluminum Macbooks would not have started at $1299 though. They could have hit that price with FW400 and a 3/4 slot, but they wouldn't have.
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