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Crayon Shin Chan wrote:Why isn't anybody asking why they are using TIM? Fluxless solder can't be that much more expensive, they must have been using it all the time up until IB.
Curious, we asked Intel about the interface between the Ivy Bridge die and the heat spreader. Intel has confirmed to TR that Ivy uses a "different package thermal technology" than Sandy Bridge. The firm stopped short of answering our questions about why the change was made and how the thermal transfer properties of the two materials compare. However, Intel claims the combination of the new interface material and Ivy's higher thermal density is responsible for the higher temperatures users are observing with overclocked CPUs.
ColeLT1 wrote:I will have one in Wednesday (3570k). I de-capped half a dozen AMDs in the past, and IB looks even easier with no resistors? to hit on the top (see pic):
This was my socket939 3800x2 or 4800x2, can't tell:
I have waterloop with an old V1 Dtek Fusion that will work for direct contact, if I de-lid I will do some stock clocked and overclocked capped vs uncapped results if anyone wants.
Dropping it in this rig ASAP:
http://imgur.com/a/tMWR8
DPete27 wrote:Seeing this Fudzilla article saying that retail IVB CPU's cant break 4.4GHz (seemingly even with extra voltage) I'm suddenly very hesitant to purchase one.
Flying Fox wrote:Running IBT will give you higher temps, you can make the decision then?
Even CoreTemp 1.0 RC still shows as ES? This is odd.
BTW, you know the Snipping Tool and PrtScn tricks to do screen caps?
ColeLT1 wrote:The way the retention plate holds the chip to the mobo is to grab each side of the heat spreader, I wonder if this would not press hard enough on the cpu once this is gone making poor contact to the socket "pins" or even damage the chip? See here: http://file.ynet.com/2/1203/03/6850171.jpg look on the left and right of the spreader.
ColeLT1 wrote:I tried to uncap, but could not get any of my razor or blades to get between the PCB and IHS, I have a feeling the reason we have only seen pictures is the chip was damaged removing the IHS. The AMDs I decapped before had a larger gap, where I could stick a razor blade in each corner and cut the glue. As I kept working the blade all I was doing was scratching up the PCB: http://imgur.com/a/3XlRF
ColeLT1 wrote:The way the retention plate holds the chip to the mobo is to grab each side of the heat spreader, I wonder if this would not press hard enough on the cpu once this is gone making poor contact to the socket "pins" or even damage the chip? See here: http://file.ynet.com/2/1203/03/6850171.jpg look on the left and right of the spreader.
Forge wrote:Do not uncap. The IHS is now part of the CPU hold-down mechanism. If you decap, you will be recapping, or not using your CPU anymore. The CPU socket clamp provides NO downward pressure to the CPU at all with the IHS removed on LGA 1155.
This applies to LGA 1366, LGA 1156 as well. LGA 775 did things slightly differently, but involved putting pressure on the IHS as well.
LGA775 = works with IHS removed, but not well, barely any pressure.
LGA1155/1156/1366 = no pressure on CPU at all, intermittent/no contact on CPU pins.
ColeLT1 wrote:TY for confirming.
Krogoth wrote:Why can't overclockers just accept the fact that Ivy Bridge doesn't response well to overvolting?
I think they just got spoiled by how well Intel has managed to get a decent clockspeed headroom on every silicon release since Conroe. Ivy Bridge defies this trend.
flip-mode wrote:Just ordered a 3570 K for a CAD machine at work. Going to go with the stock cooler. Plugging it into a p8z77m pro.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I ordered the same processor and motherboard Thursday night for a new build. They should be here Wednesday.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I ordered the same processor and motherboard Thursday night for a new build. They should be here Wednesday.
flip-mode wrote:Just ordered a 3570 K for a CAD machine at work. Going to go with the stock cooler. Plugging it into a p8z77m pro.
Flying Fox wrote:flip-mode wrote:Just ordered a 3570 K for a CAD machine at work. Going to go with the stock cooler. Plugging it into a p8z77m pro.
Why not go with the "regular" H/P chipset and non-K CPU if this is for a work machine (not likely to be overclocked)?