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new build questions

Postposted on Sun May 20, 2012 5:36 am

Hi all

I am going to build a new computer, and i was thinking about getting an intel core i5 3550 or a 3750K. From what i've learned, both have VT-x instructions, but the K version lacks VT-d. Since I do use virtualization software, and I think that a merely 100 MHz speed difference is almost nothing, I was thinking the 3550 was a better deal for me. I'd really appreciate some comments based on your experience here. By the way, there is no 3570 (no K) available here, and the 3550 is about 30€ cheaper.
Also, i want to ask if it is worth to pay the extra money for a Z77 chipset based motherboard instead of a H77 one. I do not plan to overclock and i don't think i'll go crossfire o sli anyway.
Another question is about SSD, there are so many around ... i read some positive reports about the Samsung 830 series, an a friend of mine told me his crucial m4 series was even better. What do you think.
Finally, I have a 24 inch 1920x1080 monitor, so, is the radeon 7850 enough, or should i go for 7870/7950?
I wouldn't like to spend more than 300€ on a video card if possible.

Thanks in advance! :)
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Re: new build questions

Postposted on Sun May 20, 2012 9:24 am

jokinin wrote:Hi all

I am going to build a new computer, and i was thinking about getting an intel core i5 3550 or a 3750K. From what i've learned, both have VT-x instructions, but the K version lacks VT-d. Since I do use virtualization software, and I think that a merely 100 MHz speed difference is almost nothing, I was thinking the 3550 was a better deal for me. I'd really appreciate some comments based on your experience here.



I believe that VT-d is only useful for servers and such. It allows you to restrict specific cards to VMs, i.e. this network card belongs to that VM only.

I did a little research on the ark and found only the Q67 chipset provides VT-d support.

If all you want is to test things out than I believe the 3550 or 3770, k or not, should be ok.

jokinin wrote:
By the way, there is no 3570 (no K) available here, and the 3550 is about 30€ cheaper.
Also, i want to ask if it is worth to pay the extra money for a Z77 chipset based motherboard instead of a H77 one. I do not plan to overclock and i don't think i'll go crossfire o sli anyway.



Might want to go for an H77 chipset then. You'll save a few bucks and keep all the features. Minus the overclocking of course.
And only use a non k variant.
The B75 chipset gets you most of h77 with a few less USB ports and no Intel Smart Response Technology.

jokinin wrote:
Another question is about SSD, there are so many around ... i read some positive reports about the Samsung 830 series, an a friend of mine told me his crucial m4 series was even better. What do you think.



The samsung 830 is currently the best value for price/performance. I installed a crucial m4 on my brother's new rig, flawless.
Any SSD is going to smoke an HDD. Wait for a sale for a decent performer and go for it. Just be aware of posible firmware issues (sandforce).

jokinin wrote:
Finally, I have a 24 inch 1920x1080 monitor, so, is the radeon 7850 enough, or should i go for 7870/7950?
I wouldn't like to spend more than 300€ on a video card if possible.

Thanks in advance! :)


Should be fine.
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Re: new build questions

Postposted on Sun May 20, 2012 11:23 am

jokinin wrote:I have a 24 inch 1920x1080 monitor, so, is the Radeon HD7850 enough?
Yes, that's plenty of graphics card for gaming at 1080p.
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Re: new build questions

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 12:33 pm

BitBlaster wrote:Any SSD is going to smoke an HDD. Wait for a sale for a decent performer and go for it. Just be aware of posible firmware issues (sandforce).


a) Yes, ANY SSD will be much much faster than even the fastest HDD.

b) I believe the sandforce bug issues were "solved" in October(ish) of 2011. At this point I would say that any current-gen SSD, regardless of controller, from any of the major manufacturers will be roughly equal in terms of reliability.

c) In terms of cost/performance, I would buy the cheapest SSD avaiable. The real-world performance gains offered by the more expensive NAND types or different controllers is much smaller than what the graphs and benchmark numbers make it seem. (see comment "a")
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