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AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:42 am

This should be interesting, I hope I was not to quick in updating my sons computers to an fx-6100 and a Phenom X4-965.

At least they are both AM3+ boards.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20120921231354_AMD_Sets_the_FX_Vishera_Launch_Date.html
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:18 pm

I would not expect anything from AMD until 'Excavator' comes out in 2014 which is allegedly supposed to form a CPU+GPU macroarchitecture along with HD Radeon 9XXX series.

I posted a thread here.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:38 pm

michael_d wrote:I would not expect anything from AMD until 'Excavator' comes out in 2014...


I don't know, sounds like Excavator is just going to dig them deeper into the hole.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:44 pm

I wonder how old that chart is. It still shows a Bulldozer-based FX-8170 launching in Q1 of this year, with clock speed TBD. :roll:

Also, if the 8350's turbo speed is indeed 4.2GHz, they're still having trouble ramping clock speed.

Jason181 wrote:I don't know, sounds like Excavator is just going to dig them deeper into the hole.

Haha... *rimshot*
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:05 pm

just brew it! wrote:Also, if the 8350's turbo speed is indeed 4.2GHz, they're still having trouble ramping clock speed.


This is the part of their design that gets me. By all accounts the numerous P4 designs were all about the clock (such as deep staged pipeline) and it didn't work. Clock speed of chips actually regressed for years after the P4. What was AMD thinking? Surely they didn't believe that the engineering teams at Intel were idiots?

If do they're certainly paying for the lack of hubris now. In this context Dirks firing has an added reason. He too should have known better.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:40 am

It's even more ironic since AMD themselves were the ones who championed IPC over clockspeed. :)

They were probably thinking they needed to ship the sucker, and it was quicker to bet on clockspeed rather than take the time to design a proper decode solution for it.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:05 am

Looks like a nice little bump, but like everyone else, I wish the news was bigger. Would an FX-6100 be a decent upgrade over a Phenom II X3 720? My workload's less gaming-centric and more skewed toward scientific computing and video encoding.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:32 am

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just brew it! wrote:Also, if the 8350's turbo speed is indeed 4.2GHz, they're still having trouble ramping clock speed.

This is the part of their design that gets me. By all accounts the numerous P4 designs were all about the clock (such as deep staged pipeline) and it didn't work. Clock speed of chips actually regressed for years after the P4. What was AMD thinking? Surely they didn't believe that the engineering teams at Intel were idiots? If do they're certainly paying for the lack of hubris now. In this context Dirks firing has an added reason. He too should have known better.


I have a theory: My guess is that AMD was able to achieve some very fast transistor switching and at low power in the laboratory. They took the gamble that they could make a chip that worked with those transistors. They lost that gamble. The problem probably is with the chip design and not with the switching speed.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:19 am

Concupiscence wrote:Looks like a nice little bump, but like everyone else, I wish the news was bigger. Would an FX-6100 be a decent upgrade over a Phenom II X3 720? My workload's less gaming-centric and more skewed toward scientific computing and video encoding.


For scientific computing, it can provide a healthy boost in many cases. For example, if your code is heavily using the BLAS or LAPACK type libraries for linear algebra, and you use a vendor neutral library, then you should get almost 2x the performance.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:41 am

Hot damn! Looks like I'm saving up. Thanks!
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:05 am

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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:07 am

VR Zone did a discrete GPU run on A10-5800K and i5 3470 using HD 7870 - http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trinity ... 17272.html

This is a hugh come back, if you see how pathetic bulldozer was against sandybridge, let alone ivybridge. AMD's FX "Vishera is further going to improve on A10-5800K, so things are looking good for AMD CPU department as far as gaming goes.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:27 am

Jigar wrote:VR Zone did a discrete GPU run on A10-5800K and i5 3470 using HD 7870 - http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trinity ... 17272.html

This is a hugh come back, if you see how pathetic bulldozer was against sandybridge, let alone ivybridge. AMD's FX "Vishera is further going to improve on A10-5800K, so things are looking good for AMD CPU department as far as gaming goes.



That's not conclusive for me, i'm waiting on TR's take on it since time frames seemed way worse on all AMD chips.
http://techreport.com/review/23246/insi ... today-cpus

Plus it's compared to a i5 3470....it's far from being up there with the best:
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:08 am

Arclight wrote:
Jigar wrote:VR Zone did a discrete GPU run on A10-5800K and i5 3470 using HD 7870 - http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trinity ... 17272.html

This is a hugh come back, if you see how pathetic bulldozer was against sandybridge, let alone ivybridge. AMD's FX "Vishera is further going to improve on A10-5800K, so things are looking good for AMD CPU department as far as gaming goes.



That's not conclusive for me, i'm waiting on TR's take on it since time frames seemed way worse on all AMD chips.
http://techreport.com/review/23246/insi ... today-cpus

Plus it's compared to a i5 3470....it's far from being up there with the best:


It's still an almost $200 chip, and has turboboost. It's nice to see it competitive but average FPS doesn't tell us enough.
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Re: AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.

Postposted on Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:16 am

Arclight wrote:
Jigar wrote:VR Zone did a discrete GPU run on A10-5800K and i5 3470 using HD 7870 - http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trinity ... 17272.html

This is a hugh come back, if you see how pathetic bulldozer was against sandybridge, let alone ivybridge. AMD's FX "Vishera is further going to improve on A10-5800K, so things are looking good for AMD CPU department as far as gaming goes.



That's not conclusive for me, i'm waiting on TR's take on it since time frames seemed way worse on all AMD chips.
http://techreport.com/review/23246/insi ... today-cpus

Plus it's compared to a i5 3470....it's far from being up there with the best:


You have to take note that A10 price is going to be in line with i3 series, this thing is keeping up with i5 series is actually very good, if you remember how slow Bulldozer chips were compare to sandybridge.
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