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Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:01 am
by flip-mode
I just finished yanking out a Core i5 3570 from an Asrock Z77 Extreme-4 M and dropping in a Xeon 1230v2 in it's place. I was already on the latest BIOS. The computer started right back up without a single complaint and I now show 8 logical processors. The 1230v2 is just 200 MHz shy of i5 3770 clockspeeds but is nearly $100 less.

This CPU is something to know about for those who don't care about overclocking but do want a more widely threaded CPU. It also uses slightly less power that the i5 3550, probably because the iGPU is either fused off or isn't even on the silicon.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:41 pm
by auxy
Are you using Windows? Did it whine about reactivation? ( ̄エ ̄)ゞ

Glad you like your new CPU! That sub-4Ghz clock rate is just too low for us gamer nerds, tho. Ψ(`▽´)Ψ

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:10 am
by biffzinker
Been using a Xeon 1240v2 since the end of last year, sill get a temperature reading for iGPU

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:24 am
by auxy
biffzinker wrote:
Been using a Xeon 1240v2 since the end of last year, sill get a temperature reading for iGPU

Oh, yeah, I was going to explain this:
flip-mode wrote:
It also uses slightly less power that the i5 3550, probably because the iGPU is either fused off or isn't even on the silicon.
It's just fused off, or it may even be simply disabled in microcode or something. It's definitely still there tho.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:43 am
by flip-mode
auxy wrote:
Are you using Windows? Did it whine about reactivation? ( ̄エ ̄)ゞ

Glad you like your new CPU! That sub-4Ghz clock rate is just too low for us gamer nerds, tho. Ψ(`▽´)Ψ


Windows (8) didn't say a thing to me cuz it knows I'm a hair's breadth from going back to Windows 7 anyway :x :lol:

The 1230 V2 is every bit the monster I had hoped for when it comes to rendering. A 3 hour rendering on my X4 955 at home takes 20 minutes on the 1230 at work. And for that reason, I'm just about to leave for the office :( so I can run some renderings.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:49 am
by ronch
I just checked the Intel website to compare the E3-1230 and the Core i7-2600 (a fair comparison since both are based on Sandy Bridge). Apart from the slightly lower base clock and slightly lower TDP, it looks like a good CPU for the money. Note that the E3-1230 doesn't have the IGP enabled, as some noted here, and this takes with it all the features that come with the IGP, one of them being QuickSync.

3.2GHz vs. 3.4GHz is a no-brainer, and the absence of an IGP may be a non-issue if you're gonna put in a discrete card anyway. And of course there's QuickSync. If you don't care one bit about it either, then the E3-1230 looks like a sweet deal.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:55 am
by flip-mode
Yep I don't care about Quciksync much. I'd be able to use it every great once in a while, but I don't do much messing with video. Just a lot (comparatively) of architectural rendering. FX 8350 would be fantastic for the rendering, but it's not very good with the actual in-application performance (single threaded), which is what I'm doing on the computer 80% of my day.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:06 am
by DancinJack
flip-mode wrote:
Yep I don't care about Quciksync much. I'd be able to use it every great once in a while, but I don't do much messing with video. Just a lot (comparatively) of architectural rendering. FX 8350 would be fantastic for the rendering, but it's not very good with the actual in-application performance (single threaded), which is what I'm doing on the computer 80% of my day.


Not to mention its TDP is roughly double of that 1230v2.

edit: Also, auxy did you recently do a forum name change? I haven't seen that name around for more than a week or two now.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:45 am
by vargis14
Hey flip,
Does it allow the turbo multiplier to be raised to at least 3700 on every core? Also can i was wondering if you can up the block up from 100mhz to 103mhz since that will give you over 100 more mhz and a tiny bit more mem bandwidth.

I pulled this from the overclock.net forum
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdocod

Hi Dirkonis,
If you build the rig on an ASRock board, you should be able to clock the E3-1230 V2 up to 3.7-4.1GHZ using the non-K OC feature, which is just a sort of turbo-boost hat trick that most of the late gen 1155 ASRock boards now support on the latest BIOS update. I assume it would work on the E3 series chips since it works on the non-K consumer chips.

Please let me/us know what you can do with turbo/block.....thanks.
If you can get every core to run at 4.0ghz would make that awesome deal of a CPU even awesomer:)

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:06 am
by flip-mode
vargis14 wrote:
Please let me/us know what you can do with turbo/block.....thanks.
If you can get every core to run at 4.0ghz would make that awesome deal of a CPU even awesomer:)


I can look into that but not for a few days until I clear some work off my plate 8)

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:44 am
by JustAnEngineer
flip-mode wrote:
A 3 hour rendering on my X4 955 at home takes 20 minutes on the 1230 at work. And for that reason, I'm just about to leave for the office :( so I can run some renderings.
May I suggest that you should use Remote Desktop Connection so that you can run the render at work while you stay at home?

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:56 am
by flip-mode
JustAnEngineer wrote:
flip-mode wrote:
A 3 hour rendering on my X4 955 at home takes 20 minutes on the 1230 at work. And for that reason, I'm just about to leave for the office :( so I can run some renderings.
May I suggest that you should use Remote Desktop Connection so that you can run the render at work while you stay at home?


I have not got that to work when Windows 8 is the remote computer. Windows 8 crashed the last time I tried to remote into work. I'm here at work now, anyway. :shrug:

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:56 pm
by rogue426
Flip, does this need ECC memory? My assumption is no.I'd like to drop one of these into a ASUS P8Z77 - V LX Board.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:02 pm
by DancinJack
rogue426 wrote:
Flip, does this need ECC memory? My assumption is no.I'd like to drop one of these into a ASUS P8Z77 - V LX Board.


Nope, has support for it though.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:11 pm
by flip-mode
rogue426 wrote:
Flip, does this need ECC memory? My assumption is no.I'd like to drop one of these into a ASUS P8Z77 - V LX Board.


No, it works just fine with standard DDR 3. If you want ECC memory, it will work with that too, but you have to get a motherboard with the C204 (I think - could be C206 or something) chipset.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:49 pm
by auxy
DancinJack wrote:
Also, auxy did you recently do a forum name change? I haven't seen that name around for more than a week or two now.
Nope! I'm new. ヽ(*≧ω≦)ノ

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:09 pm
by flip-mode
So, get this: I came into work and made some changes to the render scene and it's been running for 3h 15m now and it's probably got an hour left. So about 10 minutes ago I had made more changes to the underlying scene and posted it to Autodesk 360 Render cloud. Aaaand it's done!

Autodesk 360 Render is amazing. We've thrown some /insanely complex/ render scenes up to the cloud and they finish in about 20 minutes. And the render quality is higher than the highest possible settings from within Revit itself.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:13 pm
by auxy
flip-mode wrote:
We've thrown some /insanely complex/ render scenes up to the cloud and they finish in about 20 minutes. And the render quality is higher than the highest possible settings from within Revit itself.
That's the kind of stuff I think cloud processing is really suited for! Offline renders are a perfect application of remote server farms, because latency is irrelevant. ヘ(・_|

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:28 pm
by flip-mode
Well, here's a bummer: The renders I got back from the cloud for one of the scenes have unexplainable artifacts. The same scene rendered on the computer, which finally finished in 4h 20m, does not have those. Guess the Xeon is going to pull an all-nighter.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:35 pm
by auxy
flip-mode wrote:
Well, here's a bummer: The renders I got back from the cloud for one of the scenes have unexplainable artifacts. The same scene rendered on the computer, which finally finished in 4h 20m, does not have those. Guess the Xeon is going to pull an all-nighter.
Whoops! (>д<)I hope you'll report it to A-- ... errm, who makes that again? Is Autodesk also the name of the company? 〈(゜。゜)

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:41 pm
by flip-mode
auxy wrote:
flip-mode wrote:
Well, here's a bummer: The renders I got back from the cloud for one of the scenes have unexplainable artifacts. The same scene rendered on the computer, which finally finished in 4h 20m, does not have those. Guess the Xeon is going to pull an all-nighter.
Whoops! (>д<)I hope you'll report it to A-- ... errm, who makes that again? Is Autodesk also the name of the company? 〈(゜。゜)

Hmm... You know, I never report stuff. Maybe I should.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:46 pm
by Krogoth
It seems that if you want go for the ECC route with the Xeon 1230. You will have to settle for a Supermicro or Tyan Socket 1155 board, since they appear to be only motherboard manufacturers that have them.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:55 pm
by auxy
Krogoth wrote:
It seems that if you want go for the ECC route with the Xeon 1230. You will have to settle for a Supermicro or Tyan Socket 1155 board, since they appear to be only motherboard manufacturers that have them.

ASUS also has a C206 workstation board. I'm sure Gigabyte has one too.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:11 pm
by Chrispy_
flip-mode wrote:
I have not got that to work when Windows 8 is the remote computer. Windows 8 crashed the last time I tried to remote into work. I'm here at work now, anyway. :shrug:


For next time try hitting up one of the VNC's. Remote desktop is probably more successful with accelerated viewports but if you run your CAD package with software viewports you shouldn't have any issues.
I've been pretty happy with TightVNC, having moved away from RealVNC and UltraVNC. Alternatively the web-based stuff like logmein or TeamViewer do pretty good jobs, assuming they are allowed on your work network.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:01 pm
by flip-mode
Thanks, Chrispy.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:42 am
by flip-mode
Well, I'm a little disappointed. I have a really high quality rendering scene that I ran on the 1230 and also on an i5 3570. Both CPUs are running stock. The hyperthreaded Xeon finished the scene in 13.25 hours. The i5 3570 finished the scene in 15.5 hours. That's not a good showing being put on by hyperthreading. :-? An overclocked i5 3570K would easily be able to best the Xeon 1230.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:06 am
by vargis14
Can you lock the turbo at 3.7ghz for all 4 cores flip?
Mess with block a bit?

Is core parking disabled? :D :D :D

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:00 am
by flip-mode
That comparison was run with both CPUs at stock settings, which seems prudent for comparison's sake.

Re: Xeon 1230v2 skt 1155 Processor

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:55 pm
by auxy
flip-mode wrote:
That comparison was run with both CPUs at stock settings, which seems prudent for comparison's sake.
I would at least disable core parking on the Xeon to make sure you aren't having problems there. ┐( ̄ヮ ̄)┌ That said, your workload might just not be very hyper-thread-able. If it's not a good mix of integer and FP work, then HT just won't help much.
Of course, you probably knew that already.