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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:58 pm

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Chrispy_ wrote:The situation where AMD has an advantage is gaming whilst streaming, because Intel stops (affordably) at four cores, whilst the FX-8350 can run a four-thread game and encode/upload your video stream on the fly without taking such a significant performance hit.

There is no advantage for AMD. The exact opposite is true. The FX-8350 is destroyed by a quad 3770K when encoding/gaming.

To be fair these results have little relevance to a real world usage such as playing the game and streaming your play on Twitch.tv using something like OBS software. Though I believe that even using OBS the Intel's solution would be superior :wink:
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:23 pm

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End User wrote:The FX-8350 is destroyed by a quad 3770K when encoding/gaming.

As it should be, given that the FX-8350 is less than 2/3 the price of the 3770K...

That discussion was purely about performance.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:31 pm

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just brew it! wrote:
End User wrote:The FX-8350 is destroyed by a quad 3770K when encoding/gaming.

As it should be, given that the FX-8350 is less than 2/3 the price of the 3770K...

That discussion was purely about performance.


...there's no such thing :). We want to talk about performance, we move to an overclocked Ivy-E setup. And hell, that's only about $300 more than a top-end Haswell setup, and potentially over 50% faster; that's more than you'll ever get overclocking something else, and well over twice as fast as AMD's fastest (in a consumer socket). And yeah, games can use those cores quite well.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:03 pm

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End User wrote:The FX-8350 is destroyed by a quad 3770K when encoding/gaming.

Yes, for gaming the i5-2400 is indeed a better choice at the $200 price point. If the primary use wasn't gaming, then the picture would be less clear since the FX-8350 beats the i5-2400 at non-gaming tasks...

Yea i originally intended to set up a i7-3770 but i think after hearing what you guys have to say, ill probably put a i5-2400 or higher, depending on what graphics card and other stuff he wants, thank you all for your help
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:13 pm

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just brew it! wrote:
End User wrote:The FX-8350 is destroyed by a quad 3770K when encoding/gaming.

As it should be, given that the FX-8350 is less than 2/3 the price of the 3770K...

That discussion was purely about performance.

If you're eliminating price from the equation, then why stop at the 3770K? Just go for the 4960X.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:25 pm

Airmantharp wrote:We want to talk about performance, we move to an overclocked Ivy-E setup.

We are talking about quad core Intel CPUs. The i7-4820K is as slow as a 3770K.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:29 pm

f you're eliminating price from the equation, then why stop at the 3770K? Just go for the 4960X.

The discussion centred around quad core Intel CPUs.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:56 pm

End User wrote:That discussion was purely about performance.

End User wrote:The discussion centred around quad core Intel CPUs.

Is it purely about performance, or is it about quad core Intel CPUs? :roll:
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:46 pm

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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:09 am

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would your friend be interested in overclocking?... if yes make sure it's a "K" series cpu, if no then just grab the less spendy i5 model.

I will probably go with the non-k i5 cuz i dont think he could even figure out hypethreading...but thats why im helping him build it lol
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:23 am

just brew it! wrote:
End User wrote:That discussion was purely about performance.

End User wrote:The discussion centred around quad core Intel CPUs.

Is it purely about performance, or is it about quad core Intel CPUs? :roll:

That discussion was purely about the performance of quad core Intel CPUs. :roll:
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:28 am

If your friend is not into overclocking then you should consider a Has well based chip instead of the Ivy based chips.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:25 am

If money no issue then go with Intel, Intel is better deal. I just recently brought AMD FX 9590 4.7/5GHZ from overclockers.co.uk for about 340.00 US dollars with shipping included. Just make sure you get a all-in-one cpu water cooler for it. Processor works great.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:54 am

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just brew it! wrote:
End User wrote:The FX-8350 is destroyed by a quad 3770K when encoding/gaming.

Yes, for gaming the i5-2400 is indeed a better choice at the $200 price point. If the primary use wasn't gaming, then the picture would be less clear since the FX-8350 beats the i5-2400 at non-gaming tasks...

Yea i originally intended to set up a i7-3770 but i think after hearing what you guys have to say, ill probably put a i5-2400 or higher, depending on what graphics card and other stuff he wants, thank you all for your help


Heck if you are going to use a 1155 i5 2400 you might as well get a 2500k for 180$ from starmicro and add a 25-30$ coolermaster hyper 212 evo cooler then you have a cooler running chip then IVY and should be able to hit 4.5 ghz with ease on a half decent z77 motherboard. Sure sandy bridge CPU's are 5% to maybe 10% slower clock for clock then a Ivy chip but it overclocks higher then most IVY's since Ivy chips run really hot. But cooling a sandy chip is much much easier then a ovrclocked Ivy bridge chip. The 2500k is no slouch as I am sure many people here still using them are very very happy with them still and have no reason to upgrade. My 2600k is here to stay for a long time. Until PCI-e 2.0 bottlenecks a GPU 2 to 3 years from now it might just be time to upgrade.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:38 am

vargis14 wrote:Heck if you are going to use a 1155 i5 2400 you might as well get a 2500k for 180$ from starmicro and add a 25-30$ coolermaster hyper 212 evo cooler then you have a cooler running chip then IVY and should be able to hit 4.5 ghz with ease on a half decent z77 motherboard. Sure sandy bridge CPU's are 5% to maybe 10% slower clock for clock then a Ivy chip but it overclocks higher then most IVY's since Ivy chips run really hot. But cooling a sandy chip is much much easier then a ovrclocked Ivy bridge chip. The 2500k is no slouch as I am sure many people here still using them are very very happy with them still and have no reason to upgrade. My 2600k is here to stay for a long time. Until PCI-e 2.0 bottlenecks a GPU 2 to 3 years from now it might just be time to upgrade.

He already said his buddy doesn't overclock or know much about computers. It makes more sense, in more than one way, to get an i5 Haswell when running at stock.
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Re: Intel vs AMD

Postposted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:52 am

In addition to stock, I'd even suggest an S model instead of a K.

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