apsog33 wrote:Return it and get a real p4. Even a 2.26 P4 will beat a 2.6 celeron for not that much more money.
apsog33 wrote:Also when building computers for people.....DO YOUR RESEARCH.
apsog33 wrote:People are trusting you with their money so don't let them down. I have built about 3 computers for friends of mine in the last few months and I swore I would never do it again. One wanted to spend only $1000 on a computer that could play Doom 3 and Half Life 2 with everthing on. Aghhh! I also built a shuttle system for my girlfriend but I chipped in the extra cash so that she could get her cute little case. Another one wanted a Cad/3dmax workstation for super cheap. Never again.
d_rogue wrote:Check the CPU support list on the Shuttle website!
http://www.shuttle.com/hq/support/faq/s ... 1G%20(FB51)
ciRCuSSIdeSHOw wrote:Go AMD next time.
Dr. Evil wrote:Actually, the Celeron D doesn't match the specs listed on the compatibility chart. Note that the Celeron 2.6GHz listed there has a 100MHz bus speed. Celeron D's have a 133MHz bus speed.
Usacomp2k3 wrote:within 15 days, you should be able to get your $$ back...or at least most of it, I hope for my own personal sake
It's foolish to hold grudges, IMO, though people do it all the time. Whether it's nVidia vs ATI, AMD vs Intel, or nForce vs Via, the forums are full of people who had a bad experience with a particular product from a particular company -- sometimes years ago -- and have held it against them ever since. There's people who swear one company's products are the worst thing they've ever used and the other company's are fantastic, and there are other people who swear the opposite. And they're often both right, because they're talking about different products. They're overgeneralizing from their own limited experience. A bad experience is reason to be skeptical, sure, but not to dismiss the next thing out of hand. Particularly when it relates to drivers: virtually every hardware company has had to learn, the hard way, that their superiffic chip or board is worthless without an investment in software development. Sometimes they've had to learn more than once. But they do generally improve things, and drivers in particular are one area where the improvement can be dramatic (and, alas, regression more so). So to let a bad experience turn into a blind bias is simply irrational. Assume each generation starts from a clean slate (except perhaps for products from Creative, where the current generation never seems to end). Don't buy anything until there are reviews, then read the reviews without bias, and buy what seems best right now.MaceMan wrote:Duly noted. Nobody makes motherboard chipsets like Intel, unfortunately. I tried a VIA one a couple years ago and was roasted by their 4-in-1 drivers. I'll give nVidia a try when I go AMD. Neither of them seem to have people blazing with confidence and extacy from a motherboard driver perspective, however. *sigh* (not a perfect world)ciRCuSSIdeSHOw wrote:Go AMD next time.
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