I have been the webmaster of the MSN Group BookPC for 2 years, and decided to get a more "standard" but small SFF Box. So I got the Casedge Twister from Newegg. It was very easy to build, and quite capable with the Intel 845 Board. They are 4 x 16.5 deep by 12.5 wide(Tall). My only setup difficulty was that the install CD has no autorun... you must search folders for drivers.