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flip-mode wrote:Too bad those pathetic asshats at theInq are the lamest bunch of editors in the world. Notice the three different spellings they've generously provided:
DBX
DTX
DXT
Truly pathetic. And you find that level of professionalism in just about every one of their articles.
Flying Fox wrote:I am skeptical. There's already miniITX which is even smaller, why not just build a chassis/cooling solution around that? We will see how it goes. Wake me up when there are <$80 motherboards and $<100 cases available.
Edit: the fact that they only showed the motherboard and not at least a "concept" chassis was a bit odd. Most of the appeal of SFF is the actual case. Either AMD was just knee-jerking or they really are tight on money (not like Intel always throws us bones with some concept design)?
Edit2: the "reference" shown in the picture has too big of a HSF! What if I don't want toaster box but a lower profile thing HTPC (or just a thin desktop/blade) like chassis? They'd better have a low profile provision there somewhere.
toxent wrote:Hey man, I'm not knocking you You didn't write the article.flip-mode wrote:Too bad those pathetic asshats at theInq are the lamest bunch of editors in the world. Notice the three different spellings they've generously provided:
DBX
DTX
DXT
Truly pathetic. And you find that level of professionalism in just about every one of their articles.
Well i'll post an article from somewhere that better satifies you when i find one.
flip-mode wrote:Hey man, I'm not knocking you You didn't write the article.
Corrado wrote:flip-mode wrote:Hey man, I'm not knocking you You didn't write the article.
OR DID HE!? HMMMMM....
toxent wrote:AMD annouced a new open SFF Motherboard layout standard they call DTX. I would explain more, but i'll let the article do it...
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36833
I like it, i hope it goes somewhere (unlike BTX).
flip-mode wrote:Hey man, I'm not knocking you You didn't write the article.
Shintai wrote:True, I'm on a BTX compy here at work. But last I heard was that Intel was no longer pushing it, no longer trying to replace ATX with it, and that ATX is far more certain as a future standard than BTX. Plus, most BTX boxes in existence are OEM machines, and if you want to roll your own there are far fewer (if any? - haven't looked) BTX cases available as components at retail. So all-in-all my feeling is that BTX is as close to a failure as it comes without actually failing.Unlike BTX? 30% of the worlds desktop PCs uses BTX.
flip-mode wrote:Shintai wrote:True, I'm on a BTX compy here at work. But last I heard was that Intel was no longer pushing it, no longer trying to replace ATX with it, and that ATX is far more certain as a future standard than BTX. Plus, most BTX boxes in existence are OEM machines, and if you want to roll your own there are far fewer (if any? - haven't looked) BTX cases available as components at retail. So all-in-all my feeling is that BTX is as close to a failure as it comes without actually failing.Unlike BTX? 30% of the worlds desktop PCs uses BTX.
What's the background there anyway? Why hasn't BTX gotten beyond the OEM realm in any substantial way? Why has it been unsuccessful at replacing ATX?
Taddeusz wrote:Because, half the market can't run BTX. Namely systems with AMD processors due to the fact that the memory must have some kind of symmetry with the CPU to keep the circuits the same length. That's just not possible with BTX due to the location of the processor in the layout. In Intel boards just need to have equal length circuits to the northbridge. Because of the integrated memory controller on the A64 it makes things a little more difficult layout wise.
Jigar2speed5095 wrote:Do we have any pics.. I cant find one..
Jigar2speed5095 wrote:Only pics of the motherboard and how 4 of these can fit into a standard PCB cut panel for lower costs. No concept chassis yet, that's what I was complaining about. They needed to at least show a concept chassis so we have an idea of how small this new SFF form factor will look like (although you can still deduce from the dimensions it's not the same).Do we have any pics.. I cant find one..
flip-mode wrote:Shintai, even you won't deny that Dell box is fugly.