Personal computing discussed
Moderators: renee, Captain Ned
moriz wrote:use winamp and ffdshow. failing that, the Xonar CP has a few virtual surround sound options. they should be very easy to find.
moriz wrote:but generally, media intended for 2.0 or 2.1 speaker configurations are better off being played the way they are.
moriz wrote:the audio drivers for the P6T are written by Realtek, while the drivers for the Xonar are written by.... C-Media, i think. Asus is not responsible for the drivers of either.
moriz wrote:but generally, media intended for 2.0 or 2.1 speaker configurations are better off being played the way they are.
moriz wrote:if you are too lazy to click approximately three buttons in the Xonar CP, then you do not deserve your multi-speaker output.
geez, how hard can it be to click the button that says "virtual surround sound", or whatever it's called?
Close. Sound shouldn't be "virtualized" to a center channel but simple copying front to rear only enhances the soundstage. I'd probably be looking for the speaker-fill options as well.
AbRASiON wrote:moriz wrote:if you are too lazy to click approximately three buttons in the Xonar CP, then you do not deserve your multi-speaker output.
geez, how hard can it be to click the button that says "virtual surround sound", or whatever it's called?
I am not sure which button you are talking about, sorry?
BlackStar wrote:No, not really. At least not in your typical PC room.
Without careful placement, all this does does is introduce random artifacts caused by wave interference between the front and back speakers (and these artifacts can be very audible and distracting).
I'm guessing I got lucky then. I can usually guess an MP3's bitrate by ear, but I haven't noticed anything that shouldn't be there with a 4-channel setup.
dustyjamessutton wrote:Hmmm, I have the Xonar Essence ST and I don't even see a way to expand the music to 4 speakers. Oh well, I'll just plug in my Dolby Digital receiver and select the 4-speaker option on the receiver itself. Oh, and when it comes to games, Dolby Digital Live is your friend.
AbRASiON wrote:So is it possible to do this, without 'fiddling' with the signal, over analog and without expecting my amp to do it?
sluggo wrote:AbRASiON wrote:So is it possible to do this, without 'fiddling' with the signal, over analog and without expecting my amp to do it?
Sure. Put a Y splitter in each channel's line out and feed these to the four analog inputs on your amp.
AbRASiON wrote:sluggo wrote:AbRASiON wrote:So is it possible to do this, without 'fiddling' with the signal, over analog and without expecting my amp to do it?
Sure. Put a Y splitter in each channel's line out and feed these to the four analog inputs on your amp.
lol
Could you redefine the current rear channel outputs as front channel outputs when you want duplicate front channel outputs? Does the DX support that?
moriz wrote:i'm still not sure about the point in all this. as previously mentioned by somebody else, duplicating onto the rear speakers will only cause destructive interference unless the speakers are perfectly arranged, and you are sitting in the EXACT center.
moriz wrote:basically, you move your head forward/backward, you'll get destructive interference. even if you set everything up properly, sit exactly in the center, AND not move at all, all you'll be doing is doubling your sound volume, which you can accomplish by turning the sound up.
Zoomastigophora wrote:As others have mentioned, Dolby Virtual Speaker will upmix the signal across a 5.1 setup.
Zoomastigophora wrote:You might also try setting Audio Channel to 2 channels and Analog Out to 4 channels as CampinCarl suggested.
AbRASiON wrote:moriz wrote:i'm still not sure about the point in all this. as previously mentioned by somebody else, duplicating onto the rear speakers will only cause destructive interference unless the speakers are perfectly arranged, and you are sitting in the EXACT center.
Ok firstly, 'destructive interference' = LOL are you an audiophile by any chance?
Secondly - I am sitting perfectly in the middle of 4 identical speakers.moriz wrote:basically, you move your head forward/backward, you'll get destructive interference. even if you set everything up properly, sit exactly in the center, AND not move at all, all you'll be doing is doubling your sound volume, which you can accomplish by turning the sound up.
Who cares why I want to do it, I do, I want 4 speakers playing audio instead of 2, it's not hard - my movies do it in the loungeroom, my Realtek does it, it's not a hard request.
Not worrying about the rest.
moriz wrote:AbRASiON wrote:moriz wrote:i'm still not sure about the point in all this. as previously mentioned by somebody else, duplicating onto the rear speakers will only cause destructive interference unless the speakers are perfectly arranged, and you are sitting in the EXACT center.
Ok firstly, 'destructive interference' = LOL are you an audiophile by any chance?
Secondly - I am sitting perfectly in the middle of 4 identical speakers.moriz wrote:basically, you move your head forward/backward, you'll get destructive interference. even if you set everything up properly, sit exactly in the center, AND not move at all, all you'll be doing is doubling your sound volume, which you can accomplish by turning the sound up.
Who cares why I want to do it, I do, I want 4 speakers playing audio instead of 2, it's not hard - my movies do it in the loungeroom, my Realtek does it, it's not a hard request.
Not worrying about the rest.
like i said, if your ears aren't good enough to detect it, then you obviously won't appreciate the sound quality differences a xonar will make over regular onboard sound. so go ahead and follow the advice that everybody, not just the people here, have made for you, and sell the xonar. you don't need to spam five different forums about it.
your idiotic attitude really isn't helping. "LOL audiophile"? if you don't want to believe simple physics, then fine. and here you are, complaining about loss of quality due to upmixing, while interference will introduce loss of quality in of itself.
AbRASiON wrote:So you're trying to justify if one speaker is 10cm further or closer away it's going to damage the audio signal due to the speed of sound.
I think your kind of post is the EXACT kind of post which makes people laugh at audiophiles, then to go for the 'clearly your hearing is not good enough' is laughable - how about you stop replying and embarassing yourself and some helpful people respond instead? (thanks to those who have thrown some /remotely plausable/ ideas my way)
moriz wrote:AbRASiON wrote:So you're trying to justify if one speaker is 10cm further or closer away it's going to damage the audio signal due to the speed of sound.
I think your kind of post is the EXACT kind of post which makes people laugh at audiophiles, then to go for the 'clearly your hearing is not good enough' is laughable - how about you stop replying and embarassing yourself and some helpful people respond instead? (thanks to those who have thrown some /remotely plausable/ ideas my way)
looks like somebody forgot that sound is a WAVE, and two waves half a wavelength out of phase will interfere destructively with each other. it has very little to do with the speed of sound.
and no, i am not an audiophile, especially considering that you have better equipment that i do. don't assume what you don't know.
steelcity_ballin wrote:I know this seems like a silly question, but in my 5.1 setup, looking at the back of the pc, my inputs are in this order (right to left), do yours match this?
mic -> green -> NULL -> Orange -> Black.
There is also a diagnostics tool that will allow you to play each channel at once, or click on the speaker to generate sound to that satellite regardless if it's plugged in or configured properly. This may help you troubleshoot it more easily.