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i'm running on AMD DURON on a motherboard supported SDRAM and DDR....i'm kinda confused with the generic and branded one...what are the differences between it?

why not use cheap ram instead of the branded one? ...forget about crucial ram since most of the pc shops in my town doesnt sell this brand

Crucial is the way to go if you want reliable stable RAM. Where are you located? Crucial has free shipping 99% of the time for the US atleast.

It's not worth the risk of getting flaky RAM to save 5 or 6 bucks. Genuine Crucial FROM Crucial doesn't cost that much more than other brands.

i'm totally another side from ur world ....to be specific --Singapore ...i have calculated the shipping and it cause double the price of the RAM available here....for a normal kingston it cause pretty like hundred over...as for crucial the price is double

u can get generic ram 256MB DDR around $80 ...thats why i'm wondering whats the different between branded with generic one.

Listen to webbhobbit..good ram(which Crucial is...some of the best) isnt much more expensive than the "bargain brand".....which can and usually does cause you troubles.....read this post from yesterday and you will see what flaky ram can do...you can order directly from their website and they ship for free...not to mention they have a lifetime warranty

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Ram ...PSU...and Mobo are critical components of your system...and it just doesnt pay to skimp on any of em

Edit...just see where youre from...you can get good ram there...If you can find some ram with Micron or Samsung chips..you should be good to go.

zapgirl wrote:

i'm totally another side from ur world ....to be specific --Singapore ...i have calculated the shipping and it cause double the price of the RAM available here....for a normal kingston it cause pretty like hundred over...as for crucial the price is double

u can get generic ram 256MB DDR around $80 ...thats why i'm wondering whats the different between branded with generic one.

The difference is often an inferior PCB on the generic...which can cause all manner of problems for the chips. Kingston is OK as is Mushkin if you can't get Crucial for a decent price.

is apacer a realiable ram? ...i never see any of my friends use it before...mostly they will go for kingston or kingmax (before i thought kingmax and kingston are from the same company but not really )

i know crucial ram beat them all but i can get two ddr ram 512 instead of just one Crucial 256 DDR...the price is double and not to mention ..i have to wait for 2 weeks delivery...and moreover if i need any support i need to call to oversea

You WON'T need support if you get the correct spec stick (use the wizard on the website, it rocks).

I just used a client's existing Apacer 256 stick of DDR along side a new 512 stick of Crucial in a new Celeron build and it seemed to work beautifully. I don't know a lot about their rep though. Anyone else wanna weigh in?

Did I read correctly that you can get Kingston ram? They are an excellent brand also.

If Crucial is not avaible to you, these are my next recommendations in order of awesomeness

1. Kingston
2. Mushkin
3. Corsair
4. Samsung

If you can't find any of those, you could probably drive down to korea and pick some up from the factory direct

All joking aside, not just brand name, but GOOD brand name ram makes allthe difference in the world, and not just speed. A quality ram can make the difference between a computer that crashes and a computer that doesn't.

I've been buying Corsair for years, like 12 now. Never ever had a bad stick and always been able to crank up memory timings.

Love that stuff. I probably never buy anything else.

if apacer dont sound that bad...i might as well try apacer...my choice right now either kingston or apacer or samsung...i dont have much choice to choose since i'm running on an old board supported only up to DDR PC2100...anything that above PC2100 ....it will cause blue screen on my xp


lol splinter...driving down to korea i might as well fly to states and get crucial ram

but anyway thanks


Edit--> i'm wondering when crucial will be available in asia market ...lots of generic rams from taiwan and china...not that reliable after all

Splinter wrote:

If you can't find any of those, you could probably drive down to korea and pick some up from the factory direct

Heh... now that would be a road trip! (How far is it, something like 5000 miles?)

I imagine Crucial/Micron RAM is probably pretty scarce throughout Asia. There are a lot of Asian memory manufacturers, with production far exceeding local demand. Why would they bother to import RAM from the US?

is it the SiS 735 chipset?
such as the ECS K7S5A motherboard?

just brew it wrote:

I imagine Crucial/Micron RAM is probably pretty scarce throughout Asia. There are a lot of Asian memory manufacturers, with production far exceeding local demand. Why would they bother to import RAM from the US?

yes you are correct...its way so much cheaper than buying online especially when they organized IT fair ...the price can be slash half price...but if i'm not mistaken the branded RAM available in asia market....its manufacture from either taiwan or china or korea....before it was japan but the cost just too heavy.

Id go with the Kingston first...Samsung...then Apacer...hope you find what your lookin for...ever thought of replacin that board with newer nf2 board? Roxor your sox off

zapgirl wrote:

is apacer a realiable ram? ...i never see any of my friends use it before...mostly they will go for kingston or kingmax (before i thought kingmax and kingston are from the same company but not really )

i know crucial ram beat them all but i can get two ddr ram 512 instead of just one Crucial 256 DDR...the price is double and not to mention ..i have to wait for 2 weeks delivery...and moreover if i need any support i need to call to oversea

I have a 512MB stick of Apacer DDR3200 in my main box, which runs all the time. Because it's paired with a stick of PNY DDR2700 and my mobo only does SPD, it's forced to run at DDR2700, but it gets good timings at that speed (2.5-2-2-6). If I take the PNY out and let the Apacer run at full sped, the timings go down (up?) a lot, to something like 3-3-3-7, if I recall correctly. But it was a really good deal, and has been stable.

LicketySplit wrote:

Id go with the Kingston first...Samsung...then Apacer...hope you find what your lookin for...ever thought of replacin that board with newer nf2 board? Roxor your sox off

lol...trying to be a funny guy? ....no thanks atleast not for now since i have to save my $$$ for my college fees,exam fees and etc *headache* *headache* ...if i dont feel good with my pc...i can alway switch to my IBook

kvndoom wrote:

zapgirl wrote:

is apacer a realiable ram? ...i never see any of my friends use it before...mostly they will go for kingston or kingmax (before i thought kingmax and kingston are from the same company but not really )

i know crucial ram beat them all but i can get two ddr ram 512 instead of just one Crucial 256 DDR...the price is double and not to mention ..i have to wait for 2 weeks delivery...and moreover if i need any support i need to call to oversea

I have a 512MB stick of Apacer DDR3200 in my main box, which runs all the time. Because it's paired with a stick of PNY DDR2700 and my mobo only does SPD, it's forced to run at DDR2700, but it gets good timings at that speed (2.5-2-2-6). If I take the PNY out and let the Apacer run at full sped, the timings go down (up?) a lot, to something like 3-3-3-7, if I recall correctly. But it was a really good deal, and has been stable.

thanks kvndoom...uhmm...i'm wondering the more i know/read the more confused i got which one to get...lol...but anyway thanks again for the great info kvndoom

Well...that is a shame...you really dont know what your missin

z-man wrote:

I've been buying Corsair for years, like 12 now. Never ever had a bad stick and always been able to crank up memory timings.

Love that stuff. I probably never buy anything else.

I had one horrid experience with Corsair so I won't use them again. I have an Intel D845PESV Motherboard and when I first assembled this box I was trying to use Corsair XMS near top of the line PC2700 sticks (two 512s). It was EXTREMELY unstable. I could NOT get this mobo to work with that RAM. I also ran memtest and it found no errors with the RAM. The only thing I could surmise was that the Intel mobo just HATES the Corsair stuff. Sure enough I switched to the tried and true Crucial (cheaper too) and it is the very definition of stable and reliable that an Intel based system SHOULD be.

LicketySplit wrote:

Well...that is a shame...you really dont know what your missin

hehheh...maybe its a good thing...waiting patiently to see whats next AMD XP gonna move....AMD XP will not support any PCI Express anymore ...i have being a fan of AMD for 10 years now (doesnt count few years on my old pc Pentium 166 )

WebHobbit wrote:

z-man wrote:

I've been buying Corsair for years, like 12 now. Never ever had a bad stick and always been able to crank up memory timings.

Love that stuff. I probably never buy anything else.

I had one horrid experience with Corsair so I won't use them again. I have an Intel D845PESV Motherboard and when I first assembled this box I was trying to use Corsair XMS near top of the line PC2700 sticks (two 512s). It was EXTREMELY unstable. I could NOT get this mobo to work with that RAM. I also ran memtest and it found no errors with the RAM. The only thing I could surmise was that the Intel mobo just HATES the Corsair stuff. Sure enough I switched to the tried and true Crucial (cheaper too) and it is the very definition of stable and reliable that an Intel based system SHOULD be.

Yes, intel has had some problems with corsair in the past, their memory controller has issues detecting the proper speed to run the sticks at causing all sorts of stability issues. The same problem happened to a friend of mine, and he ended up doing the same thing you did.

Did I fail to mention that I have never had a problem with Corsair, ever. Or was I talking to myself?

Also I don't like Intel boards period. Had one from a friend that was nothing but a headache.

I think that Intel chipset had a known issue with Corsair and some other high-end RAM. It was Intel's fault, not Corsairs. Besides, that was a 845 chipset...

That could explain it. I had AMD for a while and waited for the 875 chipset before getting a P4, due to the slower performance of the 845.

Like I mentioned though I've never had corsair fail on me and this was starting with my first 386DX/40 MB.

I always thought corsair was the best performer...crucial best well-rounded (including $). does newegg or other such sites ship overseas? if not, how much would it cost for 1 of us to ship some ram to her?

Prolly a whole lot cheaper than she can get it..which doesnt make a whole lot of sense

Computer: Generic RAM vs. Well-respected brand-name RAM
Drinking: Back-yard made moonshine vs. Well-respected brand-name booze

Sooner or later, you're going to lose your memory, and it isn't going to be pretty...

Popobumm wrote:

I always thought corsair was the best performer...crucial best well-rounded (including $). does newegg or other such sites ship overseas? if not, how much would it cost for 1 of us to ship some ram to her?

doesnt count the shipping (about $30.00 excluded tax)...i can get TWO Kingston/Kingmax/Samsung & etc branded 256MB PC2400 instead of ONE Crucial 256MB PC2100 ....i have checked it from the crucial site

btw for the newbies who interested in this topic ....found a site with pretty cool explanation on RAM

http://www.computermemoryupgrade.net

great sources i can copy for my coming project

If you upgrade your ram...it mite be a good idea to go with at least 2700 or better still 3200 chips...then if you upgrade your board in the future..you can migrate your ram as well

LicketySplit wrote:

If you upgrade your ram...it mite be a good idea to go with at least 2700 or better still 3200 chips...then if you upgrade your board in the future..you can migrate your ram as well

thanks for the info ...heheh ...but i think by the way i upgrade my motherboard ...DDR2 already have rulez the world