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junedog123 wrote:Just want to make sure I got this right. You guys are saying that I'm basically out of luck until the bug is fixed in a "possible" quarterly release of the legacy drivers. That sucks. Looks like I'm stuck in one resolution until that happens. Windows 7 is nice, but had I know this I might have just kept with the old OS. Thanks for all the input. If anyone has anymore ideas, I'll be happy to try them out.
Welch wrote:Hmmm, I wonder if using a previous version for DX10 Mobile users will fix this issue for us... any word on that Code?
c0d3h4x0r wrote:WORKAROUND FOR OWNERS OF LEGACY DX9 ATI PRODUCTS:
Install the 8.x series Catalyst driver for Windows Vista onto Windows 7.
The driver works fine on Windows 7, and the scaling/stretching/aspect-ratio settings actually work correctly in the CCC.
Example:
I installed an older Catalyst driver for Vista 64, dated 1/22/2008, version 8.453.0.0 of the actual driver according to Device Manager, version 2008.0122.1519.27310 according to "About..." in the Catalyst Control Center. The scaling/stretching options work fine under Windows 7 x64.
Zoomastigophora wrote:Did you happen to test 9.1,9.2,9 or 9.3?
bAtER wrote:ironically on the Windows 7 RC, I didn't have any of these problems. My games would play no matter what, and I didn't even install the ATI drivers. Now however I'm having so many issues. I'm running Windows 7 on an iMac and I just reinstalled Windows 7 after hearing about apple's new Windows 7 bootcamp 3.1 support. However, I'm still have the same issues with my smaller resolution games getting centered with black bars all around. What pisses me off the most is that it worked in the RC! Please, don't make me go back to Windows XP again. HELP!
Zoomastigophora wrote:Have you tried any of the workarounds suggested in this thread?
bAtER wrote:Yeah I have. The resolution thing doesn't work for me at all. As soon as I hit apply it just goes back to the centered option that it had before.
bAtER wrote:Yeah I have. The resolution thing doesn't work for me at all. As soon as I hit apply it just goes back to the centered option that it had before.
Welch wrote:Thats one thing i miss about having an Nvidia card, easy drivers.
Welch wrote:I'm still thoroughly confused at what freaking driver I should even be looking for to download for this laptop. From reports by CodeHax about, he says that the Mobility 2600 series is supported by windows 7, and is not apart of the legacy drivers. However if I go to Toshiba's website there is not Win7 drivers for it, and to get drivers for the ATI 2600 mobility I had to say Mobility Radeon (so that it wouldn't lead me back to Toshiba's website) and I instead get a screen for a 9.9 download.... which once you start to download it says "Beta" at the end of it as though its still for the Win 7 RC Beta...... WTF? Damnit, if I were running ATI and knew this **** to be an issue... I would have popped out and made it public on the website "HERES WHAT YOU CAN DO..... HERES WHAT YOU CANT" Its sad to think that they can have some of the best hardware out, but have the worst driver support. Thats one thing i miss about having an Nvidia card, easy drivers.
Welch wrote:Yeah, its just lame that you have to use the mobility modder to run something... very lame.
Ohh , I didn't mean that Nvidia doesn't have problems with their driver releases and bugs/fixes that need to be made (including this issue). Just that you simple get one of like 2 or 3 drivers, and BAM thats it. No figuring out which version or whether your using a mobile chip, just all unified. Sure the file is larger but who really cares with connections averaging 10mbps and hitting 15 no problem these days. You can download that 100-200 megs in a matter of a minute. I'm assuming that nvidia's drivers are still like this, no need to use Mobile drivers vs desktop parts right?
Zoomastigophora wrote:It's actually been this way since ATI adopted a unified driver architecture and called it Catalyst.
Zoomastigophora wrote:AMD currently releases drivers monthly for the regular Catalyst. The legacy drivers are on a quarterly update schedule, but AMD hasn't been very consistent with that so far. We'll see if February brings a new driver for legacy.
Zoomastigophora wrote:It's also unreasonable to dictate a release schedule for WHQL certification as WHQL is not just for graphics drivers and is also not the goal of the program (and not every hardware vendor has the resources to develop and test drivers monthly). It's also not mandatory for hardware vendors to participate in it.
c0d3h4x0r wrote:It's still non-obvious. I've been using the Catalyst drivers for over 3 years and I never realized that was their numbering system.
c0d3h4x0r wrote:You're not telling me anything I don't already know. My complaint is with the lack of any recent updates for the legacy drivers. AMD has been incredibly lazy and unhelpful for owners of their legacy products who have upgraded to Windows 7 and hit unforgivably obvious blocking-class bugs like this GPU scaling problem.
c0d3h4x0r wrote:There's nothing unreasonable about it. Either WHQL needs to do FAR more thorough testing on a specific driver release before certifying it, or they need to dictate an ongoing frequent release schedule for the drivers until all known issues are fixed. If a device maker wants to get that WHQL certification and be able to advertise it, then their drivers had better damned well work correctly. There's nothing unreasonable about that.