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Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:53 pm

I'm about ready to pull the trigger on a new GPU, but if AMD"s new products are less than two months away, I'd rather wait. I know that that's a dangerous game to play (because there will always be something better on the horizon) but I can wait until Christmas no problem.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:01 pm

First parts should start showing up late 2011, but those will only be mobile. I say giving it Feb or March 2011 before you start seeing high end stuff worth buying. Nvidia should have their lower power mid-grade parts out late 2011, and I would imagine same schedule for Kepler. Or at least this is what I have gathered.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:02 pm

Latest news is that they will be shipping in December. That could be the mobile variant though, no promise that desktop 7xxx will ship in December...desktop may not ship until January/February/March. I myself am going to wait until Kepler which should be sometime early next year. I just prefer the NVIDIA drivers.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:29 pm

People are quick to say not to wait because something new is always coming. For the most part they are usually right but dropping 500 bucks on a high end GPU only to see one 50% faster for the same money in a couple of months can turn one green.... or red.... :o

I'm waiting for the 28nm parts before buying any high end GPU. I've considered a 550ti or ATI equivalent to hold me over in a new build if need be but will probably wait at least until Ivy Bridge is available.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:20 pm

ModernPrimitive wrote:People are quick to say not to wait because something new is always coming. For the most part they are usually right but dropping 500 bucks on a high end GPU only to see one 50% faster for the same money in a couple of months can turn one green.... or red.... :o

I'm waiting for the 28nm parts before buying any high end GPU. I've considered a 550ti or ATI equivalent to hold me over in a new build if need be but will probably wait at least until Ivy Bridge is available.


Lucky for him he's not going NVIDIA, so probably won't have to worry about paying $500 for a high-end GPU. :D
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:15 pm

When the 28nm GPUs do finally arrive, they are going to be very appealing. The process shrink will allow them to use half as much power as current 40nm GPUs for the same or better performance.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:50 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:When the 28nm GPUs do finally arrive, they are going to be very appealing. The process shrink will allow them to use half as much power as current 40nm GPUs for the same or better performance.

You mean like going from 45 nm to 32 nm with Bulldozer? :P

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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:07 am

Well the difference there is that the 7000 series isn't going to be a radical departure from the 6900 cards, whereas BD is a big change from Phenom II. ;)
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:31 pm

TheWacoKid wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:When the 28nm GPUs do finally arrive, they are going to be very appealing. The process shrink will allow them to use half as much power as current 40nm GPUs for the same or better performance.
You mean like going from 45 nm to 32 nm with Bulldozer? :P
I mean that you'll be able to get Radeon HD6970 gaming performance with Radeon HD6850 power consumption.

Put another way, when NVidia eventually moves to the new process, you may finally be able to buy a Fermi GPU with GeForce GTX480 performance that doesn't dim the lights on your block when you start gaming.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:36 pm

According to this article high-performance Radeon HD 7000 series will be out in Q1 of 2012. The good news is that it will have double performance in comparison to current cards. It coincides nicely with Ivy Bridge release road map, hopefully both will support PCI-E 3.0.

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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:18 pm

michael_d wrote:According to this article high-performance Radeon HD 7000 series will be out in Q1 of 2012. The good news is that it will have double performance in comparison to current cards. It coincides nicely with Ivy Bridge release road map, hopefully both will support PCI-E 3.0.

Radeon HD 7000 news


If so, it should push the high-end 6xxx cards down in price nicely.

Honestly, I can't think of a game my 6970 won't play with flying colors at 1920x1200.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:27 pm

LoneWolf15 wrote:
michael_d wrote:According to this article high-performance Radeon HD 7000 series will be out in Q1 of 2012. The good news is that it will have double performance in comparison to current cards. It coincides nicely with Ivy Bridge release road map, hopefully both will support PCI-E 3.0.

Radeon HD 7000 news


If so, it should push the high-end 6xxx cards down in price nicely.

Honestly, I can't think of a game my 6970 won't play with flying colors at 1920x1200.


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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:30 pm

The new 28nm HD Radeon 7000 is going to be a beast with well over 1GHz clock. Finally it will allow me to ditch crossfire for good. I hope it will be powerful enough for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 and Metro Last Night.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:32 am

here is the news. Of course the real news is their memory interface, seen here.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:53 am

riviera74 wrote:Of course the real news is their memory interface, seen here.

IIRC AMD had a Rambus license back in the day (though AFAIK they never released a product that used it). I wonder if they still have a license, and if so whether use of XDR2 with a GPU is covered. Or do they need to ante up and pay the patent troll?
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:35 am

just brew it! wrote:
riviera74 wrote:Of course the real news is their memory interface, seen here.

IIRC AMD had a Rambus license back in the day (though AFAIK they never released a product that used it). I wonder if they still have a license, and if so whether use of XDR2 with a GPU is covered. Or do they need to ante up and pay the patent troll?


I did not know that AMD had a license from Rambus that far back. XDR2 is Rambus IP :o ?! I suppose that AMD has figured out the licensing thing already with Rambus.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:13 pm

I did not know that AMD had a license from Rambus that far back. XDR2 is Rambus IP ?! I suppose that AMD has figured out the licensing thing already with Rambus.


If not then I can hear Chris Rock's voice saying 'I think George Lucas gonna sue sombody!!!" *cough* not that Rambus is known for such moves *cough*
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:59 pm

XDR2 makes sense from a bandwidth standpoint as well as power usage. Any one with a PS3 has Rambus RAM, I believe it's XDR.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:29 pm

Fx 8150 need fma4 support and threading fix plus prob other stuff.this 7000 srie is it also part of a whole?ms does this all the time on the security front.you need ie9 plus mse plus mal soft rem tool plus sweeperto be secure .yes os will work if some are missing but it wont be optimal.so do we get same sauce here.is 7000 part of what would make an underwelming 8150?i am asking cause lot of review seem to hint that gpu and cpu are very very friendly so much in fact that the cpu would have been design from the ground up with gpu first and formost if this is true we might need some sort of ie9 accelerated test or such that use gpu acceleration.i know most user ignore this because they dont know how big a feature gpu acceleration is but i am beginning to suspect 8150 is just a piece of the whole bulldozer puzzle.i hope i am wrong cause if i am right lot of early buyer might have been too hasty.ty for reply.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:52 pm

drbaltazar wrote:Fx 8150 need fma4 support and threading fix plus prob other stuff.this 7000 srie is it also part of a whole?ms does this all the time on the security front.you need ie9 plus mse plus mal soft rem tool plus sweeperto be secure .yes os will work if some are missing but it wont be optimal.so do we get same sauce here.is 7000 part of what would make an underwelming 8150?i am asking cause lot of review seem to hint that gpu and cpu are very very friendly so much in fact that the cpu would have been design from the ground up with gpu first and formost if this is true we might need some sort of ie9 accelerated test or such that use gpu acceleration.i know most user ignore this because they dont know how big a feature gpu acceleration is but i am beginning to suspect 8150 is just a piece of the whole bulldozer puzzle.i hope i am wrong cause if i am right lot of early buyer might have been too hasty.ty for reply.

This might be English...
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:03 pm

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drbaltazar wrote:Fx 8150 need fma4 support and threading fix plus prob other stuff.this 7000 srie is it also part of a whole?ms does this all the time on the security front.you need ie9 plus mse plus mal soft rem tool plus sweeperto be secure .yes os will work if some are missing but it wont be optimal.so do we get same sauce here.is 7000 part of what would make an underwelming 8150?i am asking cause lot of review seem to hint that gpu and cpu are very very friendly so much in fact that the cpu would have been design from the ground up with gpu first and formost if this is true we might need some sort of ie9 accelerated test or such that use gpu acceleration.i know most user ignore this because they dont know how big a feature gpu acceleration is but i am beginning to suspect 8150 is just a piece of the whole bulldozer puzzle.i hope i am wrong cause if i am right lot of early buyer might have been too hasty.ty for reply.

This might be English...


It is, by a non-native English speaker. His point about the Radeon HD 7000 series and Bulldozer might be valid..... someday. idk.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:32 pm

TheWacoKid wrote:This might be English...

And not everyone here on the forums is a native English speaker. Deal with the culture shock.

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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:54 pm

Captain Ned wrote:And not everyone here on the forums is a native English speaker. Deal with the culture shock.

Thanks for listening.

Speaking English natively has little to do with putting together a halfway decent post that isn't a rambling mess.
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:53 pm

i think the relationship between ati gpu and amd cpu might make the whole way more powerfull then the sum of its seperate part.now a days the role of cpu is very different.post fx 8150 intel buyer might not like what they see from the amd camp in january and might wish they had waited the whole bulldozer hardware release before moving to intel .time will tell.fma4 is a big surprise where it has been made avail.true huge amount of work is left before they can say were compatible but early sneak peak show speed on par with e serie unreleased intel cpu.only the lack of fund and boss going sideways could screw amd.as for the proc being average?isnt it exactly where the 8150 was planned to be?the max evo of bulldozer is probably gona be 8190 or such
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Re: Any firm date on AMD's 7*** series?

Postposted on Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:28 pm

drbaltazar wrote:i think the relationship between ati gpu and amd cpu might make the whole way more powerfull then the sum of its seperate part.now a days the role of cpu is very different.post fx 8150 intel buyer might not like what they see from the amd camp in january and might wish they had waited the whole bulldozer hardware release before moving to intel .time will tell.fma4 is a big surprise where it has been made avail.true huge amount of work is left before they can say were compatible but early sneak peak show speed on par with e serie unreleased intel cpu.only the lack of fund and boss going sideways could screw amd.as for the proc being average?isnt it exactly where the 8150 was planned to be?the max evo of bulldozer is probably gona be 8190 or such

The biggest problem with Bulldozer is it's lackluster single-threaded performance. Turbo core masks this to a large degree but at a huge cost of power efficiency.

Disabling turbo core makes any Bulldozer CPU slower than an old Core 2 for anything lightly threaded...
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