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Waco wrote:Welcome to Crossfire.
If you're seeing tearing but no other visual anomalies then you're just enjoying the amazing efforts of AMD's driver team as of late. You could try the beta frame pacing driver (which is supposed to be quite decent) if you're running a single 2560x1600 screen or smaller.
Waco wrote:13.8 beta is the one with the frame pacing improvements I believe. http://techreport.com/review/25167/fram ... on-hd-7990
JustAnEngineer wrote:Try setting them to the same core and memory clock rates? Otherwise, try swapping the cards' positions. You might even be able to solve the loping problem by arranging your mismatched cards in the right order.
Proxicon wrote:Enabling Vsync in the game or application always seemed to help with the tearing in my xfire rig. You gain a little latency which isn't great for twitch online shooters but for everything else its okay.
f0d wrote:you could always just flash the 6950 with a 6970 bios it might help a little
i had a reference sapphire 6950 that i messed around with and i also did the "mod your bios to unlock the extra shaders" trick on it but i could also simply flash an equivalent 6970 bios on it also which also worked
remember most early moddable 6950's had a dual bios switch so even if you screw up flashing the 6970 bios on the 6950 you can always just flick the switch and boot into the secondary bios and flick it back while in windows and flash back to normal
if you are worried about the memory speed being too high on the 6950 you could just lower both slightly (iirc my 6950 did 1350mhz memory clock reliably but was a little odd at 1375mhz 6970 speeds) i dont think 25mhz will make much difference performance wise
you can also unlock extra clock headroom in afterburner by typing /xcl in the afterburner shortcut in the target box of the shortcut propertys (thats what i did with mine and i oc'd mine to 950mhz)
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=370201
you might have to make a custom fan profile in afterburner if you OC that 6950 (i did) to keep it under 60
you should be able to (with just a bit of tinkering) get them both at similar speeds (im guessing 940/1350 should be easily possible) which "MIGHT" help your screen tearing issue
if its a driver issue then you will have to go on a driver search to find one that works correctly
Ph.D wrote:Proxicon wrote:Enabling Vsync in the game or application always seemed to help with the tearing in my xfire rig. You gain a little latency which isn't great for twitch online shooters but for everything else its okay.
That's just it, I get tearing even with vsync enabled.f0d wrote:you could always just flash the 6950 with a 6970 bios it might help a little
i had a reference sapphire 6950 that i messed around with and i also did the "mod your bios to unlock the extra shaders" trick on it but i could also simply flash an equivalent 6970 bios on it also which also worked
remember most early moddable 6950's had a dual bios switch so even if you screw up flashing the 6970 bios on the 6950 you can always just flick the switch and boot into the secondary bios and flick it back while in windows and flash back to normal
if you are worried about the memory speed being too high on the 6950 you could just lower both slightly (iirc my 6950 did 1350mhz memory clock reliably but was a little odd at 1375mhz 6970 speeds) i dont think 25mhz will make much difference performance wise
you can also unlock extra clock headroom in afterburner by typing /xcl in the afterburner shortcut in the target box of the shortcut propertys (thats what i did with mine and i oc'd mine to 950mhz)
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=370201
you might have to make a custom fan profile in afterburner if you OC that 6950 (i did) to keep it under 60
you should be able to (with just a bit of tinkering) get them both at similar speeds (im guessing 940/1350 should be easily possible) which "MIGHT" help your screen tearing issue
if its a driver issue then you will have to go on a driver search to find one that works correctly
Thanks for the heads up but my 6950 is already using a 6970 BIOS. I tried overclocking the flashed 6950 before but didn't manage to get past 900Mhz. How high is your core voltage at those specs?
Ph.D wrote:I guess I screwed up somewhere and only unlocked the shaders (Or did I screw up when I put it in a different slot when adding the 6970?). I used to run the single 6950 at 900/1400 (with unofficial overclocking in Afterburner) but I couldn't really get it stable and it also got very loud. When I got the second card I reverted the first card back to default settings.
EDIT:
So I went back and tried to flash my 6950 to the 6970 BIOS. The basic winflash method gave me a "SubsystemIDs mismatch" error. So then I went and did it the command prompt way.
Normally at the end of it you should see some kind of message. I don't get any message. The card has not changed at all. It's a reference model too.
Come to think of it this is exactly what happened last time too, I ended up just unlocking the shaders with RBE and then trying to overclock the card to 6970 specs without any luck.
f0d wrote:before i go any further and explain how to do it (you can force it and it should still be ok) have you tried to underclock the actual 6970 yet to the same speeds as the 6950 just to see if that is what is causing you the issues?
before you do anything you should at least try and see if that fixes your issues
vargis14 wrote:There is a check box in MSI afterburner setting to sync your clockspeeds on your cards. Just run them at the max core and memory speeds your unlocked card will run at. That should help with the mismatched speeds of the cards making them render the frames at the same speed. Also make sure you use the frame pacing driver.
f0d wrote:you can also unlock extra clock headroom in afterburner by typing /xcl in the afterburner shortcut in the target box of the shortcut propertys (thats what i did with mine and i oc'd mine to 950mhz)
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=370201