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Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:40 pm

hey All -
I finally bought an HDTV and I want to connect it to my pc. I'm still on Fermi and I already have 2 displays so I need a 2nd video card.

I know a few things I want:
NVIDIA
$100 max (if possible)
standard-size HDMI port

and I know how I'll use it: watching movie files -.avi, .mkv, .mov etc. No gaming, no color-correction or any work-related stuff. I just want a card that will play movie files without stuttering or dropping frames and I want to connect it via HDMI.

Can I buy a cheap card like a GT630? The price is right but the reviews are terrible so I won't buy the 630. But is something similar okay for what I want? If so, any recommendations?

newegg link to the GT 630 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130808

Thanks for any thoughts you can share - I appreciate it!
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:04 pm

So is this for a dedicated HPTV or are you going with three "monitors" for 1 PC?

Do you want audio over hdmi?

To be honest, as often as I use nvidia for my gaming needs, video playback is more seamless at the low end with AMD cards.

What is the maximum bit rate you are playing?

Are on-board graphics an option? My i3-2120's HD2000 handles up to 40mbit/sec mkv's without issue.
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:21 pm

2nd on AMD for a low-end HTPC. Whilst nvidia was ploughing effort into 3D and CUDA, AMD was totally nailing Eyefininty and multimonitor support.

7750 is GCN for OpenCL decode/encode - does audio over HDMI without drama and has enough GPU grunt to handle the heavy lifting in things like SVP.

I can't think of a single reason why I'd pick a GT640 or GTX650 over the 77xx; It's not that a GT640 won't do the job, but why would you want second best?
Oh, in other news, my laptop's GT650M is a nightmare to get working with the HDMI reciever. it only works if I plug directly into the TV (though I don't know if that's just Optimus getting in the way).
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:22 pm

thanks for your reply T

i thought the audio channel(s) is part of HDMI - meaning, if you connect via HDMI the audio comes with it. But if it doesn't that's okay; I've got decent computer speakers.

as i said - no gaming. And no IGP available. I have 2 monitors connected already via the Fermi card. I need the additional card strictly for the HDTV.
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:24 pm

Chrispy_ wrote:
I can't think of a single reason why I'd pick a GT640 of GTX650 over the 77xx


well I never thought it was a good idea to mix NV and AMD in the same machine. You can tell me otherwise but I've never done it. I don't have any great preference for NV so if it's truly fine to run an NV card and an AMD card in the same machine I'll do it.

but it sure *seems* like asking for trouble.

[edit: btw what's SVP? You mean the avisynth thing? motion estimation/conversion or whatever?]
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:29 pm

Uh, yeah. SVP is the 60fps from 24fps avi thing. it's pretty cool (and heavy on the GPU or CPU, depending on which codepath you use).
If you're mixing cards, then stick with Nvidia because you don't want two different GPU control panels installed, it's just bloat and annoyance.

However, if you're not using the Fermi for much, you might find that you can just eBay it and use the 77xx to do everything, assuming you're not still using analogue displays anywhere.
You'd want a triple-digital card like this or this.
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:52 pm

Then I would definitely not advocate you mix an nvidia and amd gpu. Bummer about the lack of igp, but 3 monitors.... yeah, I would probably add a low-end gpu and force them to play nice.

Increasing numbers of monitors really tips me towards AMD cards. With the way prices have fallen, you may want to look into a 7850. They are running ~$130 now on slickdeals every few days. I have never been a fan of mismatched video cards (even from the same brand), and I would personally take the stability of an amd over the cobbled together setup you are looking at. But, that's a personal opinion and you may do very well.
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:57 pm

nah I'm rocking the Fermi still because Adobe likes CUDA, at least the suite I have (cs5.5). Supposedly OpenCL is supported better in CS6 but I may never buy it. For now the 470 will have to do.

So I need a 2nd NV card to connect the tv. I don't care about "future-proofing" or "latest n greatest" I just need a card that will play HD (1080p) movies without hiccups.

btw thanks for confirming - didn't think it was smart to mix NV/AMD...
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:35 am

so that's it eh? damn... lol - seriously but - does anyone know of a NV card that's under $100 and will drive a 32" HDTV?
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:05 am

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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:07 am

A Nvidia GT-640 with a gig of gddr5 will work fine. I stay away from the ddr3 models of any video card.

Your 470 is getting long in the tooth, getting a triple monitor capable 600 or 700 series card for everything might be in order. Even a 7000 series AMD card will do if you switch camps.
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:37 am

Ya unfortunately $$ is the big limitation right now - the 470 is old but running just fine - (helps when you don't know what you're missing lol).

I'm thinking of going super-cheap and getting this 8400:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-130-607&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=3#scrollFullInfo

believe me I'm not crazy about buying DDR3 and the 64-bit interface is embarrassing (!) but I have to get this thing running for little cost. I have to buy a 25' HDMI cable too so that's more $$.

(thanks for replying V)
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:41 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:$115 -25MIR GeForce GTX650Ti


thanks JAE I saw that this morning...very tempting but I hate MIR (as we all do) and money is so darn tight right now I probably should settle for less...like that GS8400.

like I say this is strictly for a (comparatively) small HDTV - 32" 1080. I'd love to buy into Kepler's low end but if an older, silly 64-bit card will work that's all I need.

thanks for your reply JAE!
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:45 am

Remember to get your HDMI cable at Monoprice.com
Matter of fact get all your cables, TV mounts In wall speakers ETC from them. Their prices are fantastic!
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:19 pm

thanks ya I think it was JAE turned me on to them awhile ago - got a 30' ultra slim "RedMere" in the cart, $40

...still debating the card though...cheap but old GS8400 or bite the bullet spend the $ and get a way better card. (i already know the answer of course!)
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Re: Help: 2nd video card for HDTV

Postposted on Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:26 pm

canoli wrote:thanks ya I think it was JAE turned me on to them awhile ago - got a 30' ultra slim "RedMere" in the cart, $40

...still debating the card though...cheap but old GS8400 or bite the bullet spend the $ and get a way better card. (i already know the answer of course!)


Don't get a GS8400.

At least get something based on Fermi so that it supports DX11, CUDA and programmable shaders. The GT 420 is the absolute lowest thing you should be hunting for.
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