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Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:39 pm

OK the time has come to replace my 2 EVGA 560 TI superclocked cards.

I have 2 cards in mind, also note that I will be gaming in 1080p. But I run tons of AA and AF, plus games are using more and more vram plus they are big screens 37" LCD to a 55" plasma. Also I am sticking with EVGA they have a great warranty and I have never had a problem with them and my 560tisc cards both run at 985core and 2400mem with just 1.075v.

I also plan on keeping one of my GTX 560 TI SuperClocked cards in my system for a dedicated physics card in my 2600k @4.7ghz in a P67-UD4-B3 Gigabyte motherboard running PCI-e 2.0. PSU is a Corsair TX-850 so I have plenty of wattage.

EVGA GTX 770 4GB CLASSIFIED with ACX cooler Base Clock: 1150 MHz Boost Clock: 1202 MHz
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EVGA GTX 780 3GB SUPERCLOCKED with ASX cooler Base Clock: 967 MHz Boost Clock: 1020 MHz $509 both cards are from amazon...lowest prices I could find for those particular cards.

What do you people think between the 2 cards?? It has to last 3 years so I am thinking go for the 780SC...but I am open to suggestions and prices that are cheaper then what I have here :)
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:23 pm

I'd wait.

Your current cards are pretty quick, and if you want something to last three years, two year old technology with low VRAM limits doesn't sound like the best way to do it :).

If Nvidia were to release 6GB versions of the 780-series, that'd probably be the best compromise.
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:43 pm

That's why I listed the 770 classified with 4gb of vram...the 780 has 3gb and I will be sticking to 1080p for at least 2 years. I currently cannot run the amount of AA and post processing I want to run on my BIG 1080p panels. Why should I wait? Don't you think 3-4GB of Vram is enough for 1080p? I sure do know 1GB is not enough for 1080p since SLI does not combine the cards Vram even though they both have a 1gb frame buffer each. Games still consider it a 1GB frame buffer since they both have the same memory usage during games since they alternate frames.

The only thing I might add is a second USB tablet type monitor between 10-13 inches at around 1366x768 resolution to use as a monitoring/control panel. I will be using a long Quality USB extension cable since my Gaming PC is now in my closet that just so happens to be on the opposite wall as my window. So the closet and window are directly butted up against the same corner so I can crack open the closet 8 " and I have a window fan with dual 10" fans. Since they run independently I put the fan on closest to closet on low and it gently blows nice and cold outside air into the closet without freezing the room out. My current case ambient temperature is 10C with my CPU Idling at 4705 mhz with 46 x 102.3mhz @ 1.375 volts Idling it is at 19C .....Loaded 55C. Graphics cards Idle at 15-20c, loaded at 55C. In summer A AC unit goes into that window that also keeps that closet cool, but not like winter.
Besides I have a surplus of heat in the winter with a very efficient catalytic combuster wood stove in the basement....when it is on my natural gas hot air heat does not run. So I am not wasting money Till summer:)
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:18 am

vargis14 wrote:That's why I listed the 770 classified with 4gb of vram...the 780 has 3gb and I will be sticking to 1080p for at least 2 years. I currently cannot run the amount of AA and post processing I want to run on my BIG 1080p panels. Why should I wait? Don't you think 3-4GB of Vram is enough for 1080p? I sure do know 1GB is not enough for 1080p since SLI does not combine the cards Vram even though they both have a 1gb frame buffer each. Games still consider it a 1GB frame buffer since they both have the same memory usage during games since they alternate frames.

The only thing I might add is a second USB tablet type monitor between 10-13 inches at around 1366x768 resolution to use as a monitoring/control panel. I will be using a long Quality USB extension cable since my Gaming PC is now in my closet that just so happens to be on the opposite wall as my window. So the closet and window are directly butted up against the same corner so I can crack open the closet 8 " and I have a window fan with dual 10" fans. Since they run independently I put the fan on closest to closet on low and it gently blows nice and cold outside air into the closet without freezing the room out. My current case ambient temperature is 10C with my CPU Idling at 4705 mhz with 46 x 102.3mhz @ 1.375 volts Idling it is at 19C .....Loaded 55C. Graphics cards Idle at 15-20c, loaded at 55C. In summer A AC unit goes into that window that also keeps that closet cool, but not like winter.
Besides I have a surplus of heat in the winter with a very efficient catalytic combuster wood stove in the basement....when it is on my natural gas hot air heat does not run. So I am not wasting money Till summer:)


BF4 at Ultra settings at 1080p and resolution scale at 100% uses 2300mb of video memory. I think you should be safe with the GTX770 4Gb version for 2 years. If you plan to keep them after these 2 years and buy a higher res monitor, current cards won't give you much future proofing in terms of VRAM, only if you think about Titans...
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:11 pm

Well just ordered the EVGA GTX 770 4GB CLASSIFIED card with the ACX cooler to replace my 560 ti SLI cards. I did some research on the EVGA GTX 770 Classified 4gb card and it is a monster of a card at 11" long 5" wide. A full inch wider then the ACX cooled EVGA superclocked GTX 770 and a extra heapipe. The shroud and 6 heatpipe heatsink along with the PCB stick out a little bit over a inch from where you screw the I/O plate on the card into the case spreading out the components for better heat dissipation along with more power phases. The backplate actually is under the cooler keeping the VRM and other components cool along with keeping the card rigid.

Another big plus is it has a triple bios dip switch so you don't have to worry about bricking your card when updating the bios. EVGA really did there homework designing this card. It is a work of art

I plan on using a 560 TI as a dedicated physics card and will post some benchmarks of some PhysX games using the 770 alone and with a 560TI dedicated to PhysX.

Won't be receiving the card until the 22nd but you better believe I am itching to get my hands on it. My first upgrade to my system in just over 3 years so you better believe I am super excited. :D
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:22 pm

vargis14 wrote:Well just ordered the EVGA GTX 770 4GB CLASSIFIED card with the ACX cooler to replace my 560 ti SLI cards. I did some research on the EVGA GTX 770 Classified 4gb card and it is a monster of a card at 11" long 5" wide. A full inch wider then the ACX cooled EVGA superclocked GTX 770 and a extra heapipe. The shroud and 6 heatpipe heatsink along with the PCB stick out a little bit over a inch from where you screw the I/O plate on the card into the case spreading out the components for better heat dissipation along with more power phases. The backplate actually is under the cooler keeping the VRM and other components cool along with keeping the card rigid.

Another big plus is it has a triple bios dip switch so you don't have to worry about bricking your card when updating the bios. EVGA really did there homework designing this card. It is a work of art

I plan on using a 560 TI as a dedicated physics card and will post some benchmarks of some PhysX games using the 770 alone and with a 560TI dedicated to PhysX.

Won't be receiving the card until the 22nd but you better believe I am itching to get my hands on it. My first upgrade to my system in just over 3 years so you better believe I am super excited. :D


I think its sensible choice. The 4Gb should serve you well in the next few years.

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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:25 pm

I'm not as sharp as many of the helpful fellows here, but I do have a thought:

It seems like your budget is high, but you don't want to upgrade very often. Maybe you should spend a bit less on a GPU now with the expectation that you will be replacing it in 18-24 months. Don't worry about future-proofing and just get the cheapest card that will enable you to max 1080p games now. Then dedicate the saved cash towards your upgrade in 18-24 months, when you'll need to purchase a higher res screen, and the GPUs available at that time will undoubtedly be better at handling the higher res requirements, have more memory for future games, come at better performance/$, etc.

A mildly similar analogy: my boss (and his boss) both seem to think the way to go is to purchase a $2,000 laptop every five years. But at the end of year three, it's a piece of junk, and it's just abysmal midway into year four. However, if you purchase a $500-600 laptop every 18-24 months and immediately put an acceptable SSD in it, it's both more affordable and provides better performance over time.
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:51 pm

Considering I only spent a little over $1600 building my rig a little bit over 3 years ago. In the last 38 months I have spent Around 58$ a month. Now add 2 more years my price drops to $35 a month. I do not think that makes my budget very high. Especially since I have spent around 100$ on the system in the past 3 years for 4 fans and another 2TB HDD. My next upgrade will be a new 120mm AIO Cooler since my current one is 3 years old and has a copper cold plate with a aluminum radiator I am sure there has to be some corrosion in the microchannels on the copper block or in the aluminum runners on the rad. Plus it is a bit on the skinny side:)

I am confident that my 2600 and this new 4gb 770 will last another 3 years considering gaming performance difference between a overclocked 2600k, 3770k and 4770k is below 5% even with PCI-E 2.0 @8x. With Intel having no competition on the high end mainstream I do not foresee anything in the next 2 years that will be a huge improvement for gaming. Unless Mantle has some huge breakthrough. As for a Steambox I am sure I can dual boot my current system once they work the bugs out in 6 months to a year.

Also if I purchase a higher resolution monitor it will be a Gsync enabled 21:9 2560 x 1080 format monitor or a 144hrtz 27" 1080p Gsync monitor with a IPS or a equivalent panel type if they ever get fast enough since I am a 3D freak. Gsync is a pretty awesome technology that makes 40fps look silky smooth. Also I believe I read the Nvidia Gsync module might be available to mod certain monitors. I hope a few different Gsync kits of some kind come out but I think that is wishful thinking.

The new 21:9 34" U3415W from Dell offers a native resolution of 3440 x 1440 would be a awesome monitor but I do not ever plan on paying over $1000 for a single display. It will probably be a couple hundred or more over $1000 so you can count me out. Do not have the budget for it. But I bet it is beautiful and like having 2 1720 x 720 monitors in one. I imagine it will sell great for power users who need 2 monitors worth of real estate but do not want 2 monitors on their desks.

I also have the option of adding another 4gb card for SLI. By the time I need it I am sure the price will be half of what it is now.
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:06 pm

Let us know what you decide. :)
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:59 pm

Milo,
Already ordered 1 of the many best GTX 770 4gb cards on the planet. The 11" long, 2" thick 5" wide :Yep it is over a inch wider then the PCI bracket: EVGA GTX 770 4GB CLASSIFIED with ACX cooler Base Clock: 1150 MHz Boost Clock: 1202 MHz triple bios card. Plus it has some OC headroom with some cards hitting 1300+ on the core and almost 8000mhz on the memory. With the triple bios dip switch I can flash bios's to my hearts content without worry of bricking my card. It has 3 settings, normal, OC and LN2. I will use the LN2 setting for experimental bios's. I hope I hit the GPU lottery and get a awesome chip with tons of extra OC capability. Most reference cards will not even hit 1202 boost.

Right after I register the card with EVGA it will have a new bios ready for me that makes the voltage boost go from 112% to 115% and allow the fan to go as low as 29%.

One of my 560ti cards will be a dedicated physics card and the other will be sold or kept as a backup to my HIS HD 7750 that is in my I3 2125 H67 system. But to use it I will need a better PSU. So the best overclocking one will be my physics card. They both run at over 1000+mhz core and 2400 mem. now I will find out what 560ti SC is the better card since I have had then in my system from day 1 and their serial #s in order so they came off the line back to back. That was around 1100+ days ago estimated.
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:06 pm

I'm envious! Haha. I'm sure it will run very nice. :D
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:55 pm

I am Anxiously awaiting for it to arrive. I have not felt like this since I was a little kid.

Here is a Youtube Video that made my wait even worse. It get most interesting at around the 3 minute mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N212mercxwU

With my case ambient temps around 5c to 10c or whatever the temp is outside since the computer is contained in my closet with a dual 8 inch very quiet window fan is blowing into my closet with the door cracked open around 12". This is possible because my window is butt up against the corner of my my west side of my house with the window fan 6" from the south wall of my bedroom. My closet is on the south side of my room butt up against the same corner as the window. Luckily the door opens on the window side so the sir goes directly into the closer cooling my entire PC. In the summer the window AC unit blows some cold air into the closet also so in the summer it stays around 60f in the closet. Even on a 90+F day.

The wife has been complaining she is freezing her butt off so earlier today a friend that does heating and air conditioning gave me a 4ft section of insulated 8" flexible ducting hose I taped to the fan blowing outside air directly into the closet through a 8 inch hole I cut into the lower part of my 2 panel closet door so I ran to home depot and grabbed a 10 " x 10 " to 8 " Ceiling Register Box hose adapter for $13 that is screwed to the inside of the closet door so now I can cool the whole closet without freezing my wife since I can close the closet door completely. I do not have to worry about freezing any pipes because the ceiling in the closet has a 6" hole so the cold air will be pushed into the attic. The wife just said I have to shorten the hose and I agree with her.

Now I am looking forward to seeing the overclocks I can get with such low temps for my entire system.

Now the room is hot!!!! time to crack the closet door :)
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:03 pm

We'll the wife was hating the hose running from the fan to the closet and I wish I would have thought cooling my closet through a little more. It was very stupid of me to cut a hole in my closet door and have a hose running 3 ft from the fan to the 10x10" square to 8" round ceiling register.

After thinking it through. Since my attic is right above my closet I ended up moving the register up to the ceiling of the closet. I also moved the fan into the attic and mounted it directly over the louver vent at the top of my roof arch so it still pulls cold air from outside. I had to get another 4 ft section of 8" vent hose and a adapter to connect the two pieces of 8" hose together. I also took apart a fiberglass very low resistance heater air filter and put in a piece of filter where I have the adapter to filter the air coming into the closet. So now I have no fan in the window and the nice cold outside air gets pulled from the fan in the attic through a filter and out the ceiling register into the closet. Now pollen spores and dust from outside will bet cut down big time.

It is going to work out well in the summer also since the fan is reversible I can put in on exhaust and pull then hot air out of the closet and exhaust it into the attic and outside. That will pull cool air into the closet from the 8" hole that is now in the door that I will cover up with a nice looking vent on and if that is not enough I can always crack the closet door since the window AC unit is right opposite of the closet.

Now the wife is happy and so am I, now I cannot hear the 8" 3speed fan on high or anything unless I am running my graphics cards at 100% but they barely hit 60c Oced with the fans unheard at 40% speed.
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:47 pm

Milo Burke wrote:It seems like your budget is high, but you don't want to upgrade very often. Maybe you should spend a bit less on a GPU now with the expectation that you will be replacing it in 18-24 months. Don't worry about future-proofing and just get the cheapest card that will enable you to max 1080p games now. Then dedicate the saved cash towards your upgrade in 18-24 months, when you'll need to purchase a higher res screen, and the GPUs available at that time will undoubtedly be better at handling the higher res requirements, have more memory for future games, come at better performance/$, etc.

I generally follow your philosophy. I upgrade my GPU roughly every 24-30 months, and usually spend about $200-230. For example, my past three cards were HD4850, GTX 460 1GB, and now GTX660. I also don't play the most bleeding-edge games as soon as they're released; I tend to stay about 12-18 months behind the curve. This has two big bonuses: First, I get the games at a significantly lower cost (Steam sales), and second, since I'm playing games that are 12-18 months old, my hardware is much more competent.
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:28 pm

Believe it or not My new EVGA GTX 770 classified has arrived!!

But my sneak of a wife received it and has hidden it on me saying since I bought it for a christmas present for myself I have to wait till Christmas eve!!

Off to search the house!!!!!!
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Re: Replacing EVGA SLI 560TI cards

Postposted on Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:29 pm

Well the card is installed and i did my first 3d mark 11 benchmarks.

With my 2600k @ 4700 MHZ

SLI EVGA 560TI SC cards ar 1001 on the core and 2400/4800 on the memory it scored 10261 points

A single GTX 770 Classified 4gb @1267 on the core and 3733/7467mhz on the mem 11461 points edit @ 16x PCIE 2.0
11416 points @ 8x PCIE 2.0

Currently download the new batman since I recieved ait free from amazon I will update my results with Batman origins with the 770 alone with high physics and with a 560ti dedicated to physics. Should be up in he next day or 2. Also going to test the original Metro.
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