Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

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Will the cloud computing take over?

Yes
7
7%
Yes for enterprise
13
13%
Yes for home
4
4%
Hard to say
14
14%
No
49
51%
Cheese!!
10
10%
 
Total votes : 97

Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 3:13 pm

Someone has got to come up with a better name than 'the cloud'. It's like the 2010s version of 'the information superhighway'.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 3:27 pm

Cloud computing isn't old at all.

It is a very old computing concept with a new label done by marketers who were in diapers/tears in their parents the last time it was used in any significant capacity.

It is terminal computing.

There a number of reasons why personal computing completely dominated terminal computing and it will continue to do so in the foreseeable future.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 3:49 pm

No. Never.

I worked for a avionics company for a short time, and we were looking at slides from a high-level executive on the future of our systems. The very last iteration (estimated at 10-20+ years out) was a series of boxes that only communicated wirelessly (that being the boxes on the plane talking via wireless technologies). Every single engineer in the room had the same response: no. It sounds cool, it has some advantages, yes, but in the world of systems that keep planes in the air, it will NEVER happen.

I see the same thing happening with cloud enthusiasts. There are advantages, and even some situations where it will dominate, but it will never replace major computing systems.

First off, as people have mentioned, you give up control of your data...I don't think that's entirely true, but you're certainly giving someone else access to your data, and unless all law (domestic and international) advances a lot, I think that too many businesses will simply pass out of distrust. Secondly, there are too many systems under the hood of these enterprise systems that need specialized care. Even with dedicated teams, updating engineering tools launch with issues that may not be resolved in a week. On top of all of that, protections on DoD type stuff will prevent adoption, and there are plenty of companies with some sort of interest in government contracts who would be subject to the same security needs, and that often gets spread to all business units, not just those dealing with government stuff.

Don't get me wrong, having cloud tools is cool, and it will be nice to have in some things, like having your game saves and preferences saved online. But you won't see the cloud take over everything.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 4:04 pm

I like cloud software in the sense of Report Builder that is a server hosted software that downloads the application to run on the local PC but never actually installs. The data is never transmitted to said server, but the server manages all the software updates etc.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 4:23 pm

Adobe is doing it.
Autodesk is doing it.
Microsoft is doing it.
Apple is doing it.
Amazon it doing it.
Netflix is doing it.
Google is doing it.

The cloud already has replaced stand alone software. Perhaps the question was supposed to ask if it will replace it completely, to which I would guess it will not do so entirely because some [paranoid | sensible] people will always avoid it.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 4:31 pm

flip-mode wrote:Adobe is doing it.
Autodesk is doing it.
Microsoft is doing it.
Apple is doing it.
Amazon it doing it.
Netflix is doing it.
Google is doing it.

The cloud already has replaced stand alone software. Perhaps the question was supposed to ask if it will replace it completely, to which I would guess it will not do so entirely because some [paranoid | sensible] people will always avoid it.

the paranoid won't have a choice soon... at least for some types of applications.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 5:04 pm

danny e. wrote:the paranoid won't have a choice soon... at least for some types of applications.

Which apps might those be? I can't think of any but perhaps you're onto something.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Mon May 21, 2012 7:26 pm

Krogoth wrote:Cloud computing isn't old at all.

It is a very old computing concept with a new label done by marketers who were in drapers/tears in their parents the last time it was used in any significant capacity.

It is terminal computing.

There's a number of reasons why personal computing completely dominated terminal computing and it will continue to do so within the foreseeable future.

Yes, I said pretty much exactly the same thing back in this thread.

superjawes wrote:First off, as people have mentioned, you give up control of your data...I don't think that's entirely true, but you're certainly giving someone else access to your data,

Not just that. You're also counting on that "someone else" to not shutter their operation without warning due to financial difficulties, or get forcibly shut down for alleged copyright infringement by other users. You're also trusting that their systems and procedures are robust enough to not mangle or lose your data. I would say you are definitely giving up a fair bit of control.

The cloud services provider may very well do a better job than you would, but it's mostly out of your hands.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Tue May 22, 2012 6:57 am

just brew it! wrote:
superjawes wrote:First off, as people have mentioned, you give up control of your data...I don't think that's entirely true, but you're certainly giving someone else access to your data,

Not just that. You're also counting on that "someone else" to not shutter their operation without warning due to financial difficulties, or get forcibly shut down for alleged copyright infringement by other users. You're also trusting that their systems and procedures are robust enough to not mangle or lose your data. I would say you are definitely giving up a fair bit of control.

The cloud services provider may very well do a better job than you would, but it's mostly out of your hands.

Good point. It could even pose problems by forming another tech bubble that will wipe out other companies when it bursts, and, related to my security point, one successful attack could compromise a lot of corporate/financial/trade secret data.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:51 am

Hi all!

Another cloud enthusiast chiming in… I think the concerns raised in this discussion are legitimate, but as others have mentioned, cloud computing is much more widespread than many people realize. As a developer, I’m coming across more and more categories of tools that are moving to the cloud and can simplify the development process - for example, take a look at this post about 43 cloud services for application developers, and that isn’t even a complete list, it misses categories like cloud storage like dropbox, box, etc., geo-targeting (like ipligence or iptolocation), or CDNs, just to name a few. So as a developer it’s becoming more and more difficult to ignore the cloud and to stay efficient you need to take advantage of at least some of these new services.

However, as mentioned previously, laws and regulations are lagging behind (which actually makes sense if you consider the rapid development of cloud computing and the inherent ‘slowness’ of judicial processes, but still…) and people /organizations should not just decide to “move to the cloud” without seriously considering if cloud solutions are the best solution for their needs, and if so then what cloud computing offerings are available and what are their policies regarding data security and backup, up / down time, pricing, and licensing.

I’ll conclude by saying that despite my personal inclination for the cloud, I don’t believe it will replace standalone software because businesses and individuals have different requirements and considerations when it comes to their IT systems, as well as different beliefs regarding the cloud environment.

Those are my thoughts on the issue, any comments are welcome :) Rona
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:32 pm

No. Just you try and sell me something that when it starts to get a little bit hot turns into thin air!!! 8)

As a user of very complex, very security-centric software, that needs high availability and ridiculous encryption in my work life I would NEVER trust cloud computing to do what our servers do. As a convenience for some non-important services in my personal life, sure I'll dabble in some, but I won't trust them or use them for anything important or that isn't backed up elsewhere.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Sat May 11, 2013 6:23 pm

As I've stated.. it is inevitable. Adobe has now gone cloud ONLY not just cloud optional. Microsoft will be moving that direction as well with at least some of its products.
Many other companies will follow suit.

the Adobe Creative Cloud seems like an ok deal. I wish they'd have a 3 or 5 app model rather than a 1 or all. I just signed up today and downloaded everything. $30/month for owners of previous versions that qualify. So, I'll get a year for 30/month at least.

I suspect that some people think of cloud-only as running only in the cloud, which doesn't need to be the case.
Adobe example is a good one. All applications are still installed & run locally. I suspect they will move more and more to the cloud as it makes sense but their model is a very good one.
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Re: Do you believe cloud will replace stand alone software?

Postposted on Sat May 11, 2013 7:31 pm

There is no cloud. It's just idiots making up buzz words. So cheese is definitely the right answer.

It is servers on the internet and the rules that govern that, both physical and societal, are the ones that will determine what is possible.

I hope that's not too complicated.
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