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Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:27 pm

Just wondering if anyone has any input on this?

I remember there used to be an IE x64, I don't see it on this win7x64 PC now though, and I heard Mozilla dropped FF x64 support.

Just wondering if anyone uses any 64-bit browsers and what ones?
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:35 pm

http://www.waterfoxproject.org/

I had downloaded this a few months back but hadn't given it a try yet.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:39 pm

IE Defaults to 64-bit now. It has caused a ton of problems for web-based systems, which I have had to do a lot of work for the local insurance agents. Their software requires 32-bit to be loaded. Before IE10, you could go to IE Help, and it will tell you which version you are running. Most often, IE defaults to 64-bit and you have to find IE in the x86 folder and run it from there.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:40 pm

anotherengineer wrote:Just wondering if anyone has any input on this?

I remember there used to be an IE x64, I don't see it on this win7x64 PC now though, and I heard Mozilla dropped FF x64 support.

Just wondering if anyone uses any 64-bit browsers and what ones?


Before I upgraded to IE10 if I right-clicked on the icon on the task bar it gave me the option of opening an x64 window. I don't see that option anymore.

When I look at the properties, it's running out of Program Files and not Program Files (x86) which suggests that it's an x64 program. I can still find another copy in Program Files (x86) however, so it looks like it installs both.

My assumption is if you're running Win7x64 and you installed IE10, that it made x64 your default, and they don't bother giving you the menu option anymore.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:17 pm

Opera 64bit, but they will be moving to the Webkit/Blink for future releases.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:39 pm

I use the Pale Moon x64 build of firefox.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:27 pm

anotherengineer wrote:Just wondering if anyone uses any 64-bit browsers and what ones?


Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Rekonq and Opera.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:40 pm

IE10 is default 64bit.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:14 pm

Ryu Connor wrote:IE10 is default 64bit.

I think yes and no, in win8 anyway. I believe it's 64 bit overall but each tab is a 32 bit process with its own memory.

Unless you enable the Enhanced Protected Mode, that is.

I have no idea how it runs in win7.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:26 pm

TheEmrys wrote:IE Defaults to 64-bit now. It has caused a ton of problems for web-based systems...
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:28 pm

Savyg wrote:I think yes and no


http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... -explorer/

Metro-style browsers, including Internet Explorer 10, are 64-bit by default, and Internet Explorer 10 opts in to using HEASLR.


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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:04 pm

Ryu Connor wrote:As I said.

Which is relevant when running it in WinRT mode. In desktop mode that is not accurate.

http://www.neowin.net/news/how-to-enabl ... -windows-8

On 64-bit Windows 8, the browser frame process (both “modern UI” and Desktop) runs 64-bit. However, for compatibility with plug-ins, IE 10 on the desktop runs 32-bit tabs by default. If the user turns on “Enhanced Protected Mode” in Internet Options, Advanced; they will have 64-bit tabs by default for IE 10 on the Desktop.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:12 pm

Yes, EPM on desktop is full 64bit mode.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:14 pm

What are the tangible benefits of 64-bit browsers?
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:17 pm

Without ASLR, none really.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:22 pm

chµck wrote:What are the tangible benefits of 64-bit browsers?

Short version is better optimization defaults (Firefox still runs some x87 code last I heard, which isn't even available to 64 bit apps iirc) and no WoW64 layer translating things to the OS.

As far as most noticable differences it'd only really be 'felt' in encryption or other heavy activites, but for basic browsing it wouldn't change much.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:50 am

According to what i read somewhere, if you have bad browsing habits (like i do) and have a ton of tabs opened at the same time (+20) the browser will starts to get slow at switching tabs and normal scrolling independently of how much memory you have on your system. its a problem because of the 32 bit architecture of the browser limiting the memory. or something like that.

Don't take my word for it, thought, i can't remember where i read it, but the problem was something like that. In a native 64 bit engine browser (in which everything runs 64 bit, not just recognized as x64 by the OS) it wouldn't happen.
Something else about only chrome for linux being available as a pure 64-bit executable. Did some research about it a few months ago. Things might have changed since.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:24 am

I have a 64 bit Seamonkey. I did build it though.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:00 am

Another vote for Pale Moon.
I've been using for at least a year, without issue.
I had no incompatibilities, as I was able to use noscript and adblock plus (among other add-ons).
I've tested it with having over 30 windows open, equating to over 1400 tabs, which consumed around 11 GB (my system's got 12 GB), no issue.
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:43 am

64-bit Chromium here. (On Ubuntu Linux.)
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Re: Any 64-bit web browsers?

Postposted on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:15 am

Thanks for the feedback, maybe I will give waterfox a shot.
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