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Got this in the mail this morning and I think it sums it up quite well?notfred wrote:BTW Any feelings on the McLaren penalty? I think it was a bit harsh, probably wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Ferrari vs McLaren (FIA tend to favour Ferrari, and I say that as a Ferrari fan).
I don't know if he "got" Dennis to withhold information. May be he just needed to arm-twist his engineer? RD may be too busy dealing with the other **** and may also want to create the illusion of "fairness" so he was turning a blind eye to it, for now. I feel it may be kind of fair that if they are that tight in the championship, as long as they don't take each out on the track it's ok. The going out wide at turn 1 did seem out of Alonso control though.Captain Ned wrote:Alonso's a whiny pussy who can't accept that Hamilton is so talented. He's so damn whiny he's even been successful in getting Ron Dennis to withhold his setup information from Hamilton. Some teamwork, there.
Flying Fox wrote:I don't know if he "got" Dennis to withhold information. May be he just needed to arm-twist his engineer?Captain Ned wrote:He's so damn whiny he's even been successful in getting Ron Dennis to withhold his setup information from Hamilton. Some teamwork, there.
He said it with pretty good confidence eh?James Allen of ITV F1 wrote:Still, he really looks the part now and I’m sure he’ll make a great team with Alonso at Renault next year…
I don't know that a bonus for success is too unreasonable. He probably could have worded it better than "if I beat Hamilton" though.notfred wrote:I heard that he was offering his engineers a bonus if he finished in front of Hamilton until McLaren stepped in and stopped that. I suspect Alonso is out of there at the end of this season with all this behaviour.
They already don't have to pay that full amount, since this is going to be offset by the amount they "would have obtained" by their position in the constructor's.thill9 wrote:But, if McLaren could get any money out of him for breaking his contract, then all the better. $100 million is some serious money to have to pay back.
Both Rosberg and Williams claimed they are going to be in the same team next year. But I guess everything and everyone have a price. Will be interesting to see how this turns out, whether Ron will go out and find a guy or promote from within. Try to steal Davidson from Honda? Now that's a radical idea, all British lineup! Don't know about the availability of Piquet Jr though, that can be interesting.thill9 wrote:I could see Ron paying his good buddy Frank Williams some money to part with Nico Rosberg.
Those two wannabes have had way too much time (and money) to prove themselves. They should probably just retire and leave the seats to upcoming more capable drivers.thill9 wrote:It'll be good to bid Mr. Fisichella a fond farewell from Renault. He and Ralf will be lucky to find another team next year.
IMO the parking antics at Monaco last year is still worse. Alonso has not tried to take out other cars for the sake of his own championship yet (at least no crash resulted). We will see what he is made of in the next 3 races. If he takes the lead will he try to take Hamilton out after that? We will see.Gandhi wrote:Interesting viewpoint from the press bench. Have not really followed F1, and am aware of Schumacher's antics, but Alonso seems so much worse.
The engine problem is not his fault though.thill9 wrote:four words - Hamilton is an idiot.
Flying Fox wrote:Edit: I would probably add "whiny" to Alonso's adjectives too.
notfred wrote:I think that they should allow them to use whatever engines they like - piston, rotary, turbine, whatever, and also allow energy recovery braking. Limit the teams on the amount of fuel they can use in a race and as the seasons go on reduce that amount. You could even allow them to use the equivalent energy in another format (electricity, hydrogen, Mr Fusion?). That would get some of the smartest minds in the world working on solving the worlds energy problems. Also require the teams to produce publicly available technical explanations of how their systems work - this would help level the playing field and provide interest to the public. Only rules are they have to prove to the FIA that the system is safe in the event of an accident, and they have to prove that all energy storage systems are empty before they first fuel it.
diamond2a wrote:Unfortunately it would cost the teams a lot of money, which is what the engine regulations have been seeking to avoid.
cubical10 wrote:It was interesting to see how our little league mimicked the real life.
3 top teams followed by the rest of us.
I was hoping to finish best of the rest, but the Tifosi nudged me out .
Congrats to all.
On a side note, the worst rule change was announced today, FIA announces ten-year engine freeze for F1. For a sport that claims to be the pinnacle of technology, how do you freeze a major component of the car for a decade? Mosley has to go...
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