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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:29 pm

It took two overtimes for the apple cup and the official worst team in (div 1) football to be decided today.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:44 pm

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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:35 pm

danny e. wrote:hmm It's starting to look like it will be Texas vs Florida in the championship.
Alabama wont make it past Florida in the SEC championship game. Texas Tech will lose to OK State or Oklahoma. maybe both

if Oklahoma actually had any defense at all, they'd be a superb team.

Oklahoma seems to have grown a bit of a defense, but more importantly they've developed a rushing game.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:09 pm

AP rankings, week 13 wrote:1. Alabama (63) 11-0
2. Florida (2) 10-1
3. Oklahoma 10-1
4. Texas 10-1
5. Southern California 9-1
6. Penn State 11-1
7. Texas Tech 10-1
8. Utah 12-0 :)
9. Boise State 11-0 :(
10. Ohio State 10-2
11. Oklahoma State 9-2
12. Missouri 9-2
13. Georgia 9-2
14. Texas Christian 10-2
15. Ball State 11-0 8)
16. Cincinnati 9-2
17. Oregon State 8-3
18. Georgia Tech 8-3
19. Oregon 8-3
20. Boston College 8-3
20. Brigham Young 10-2
22. Michigan State 9-3
23. Florida State 8-3
24. Northwestern 9-3
25. Mississippi 7-4
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:42 pm

I just wanna say:
The season's over, and MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS! ;)
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:18 pm

So where would a 1-loss alabama figure in there? December 7th is going to be a night to watch for sure.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:46 pm

UberGerbil wrote:I kind of wish there was a bottom 25.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/stor ... ttom100813
David Duffey wrote: ESPN.com's Bottom 10, week 13:

1. Washington 0-11
"Knockin' On Heaven's Door:" The Huskies are knock-knock-knockin' on the door to Bottom 10 immortality. With one more loss, they will complete a perfect winless season.

2. Southern Methodist 1-10
"Use Your Illusion I:" If June Jones closes his eyes and tries real hard, maybe he can convince himself he's back in Hawaii soaking in the sun.

3. North Texas 1-10
"Use Your Illusion II:" If Todd Dodge closes his eyes and tries real hard, maybe he can convince himself he's back at Southlake Carroll soaking in the run to another title.

4. Western Kentucky 2-9
"You Ain't The First:" The Hilltoppers aren't the first independent to make the Bottom 10. Nor are they the last. Need proof? See below.

5. Notre Dame 6-5
"November Rain:" It's been raining losses for the Irish in November. If their 1-3 record this month isn't bad enough, a shower of snowballs directed at them from their own student section during the Syracuse loss made it worse.

6. Iowa State 2-10
"Welcome To The Jungle:" We're not sure how the Cyclones have escaped the Bottom 10's attention this long. But those 10 straight losses make them a welcome addition.

7. Tulane 2-9
"Breakdown:" Since a two-game winning streak in September, the Green Wave experienced a breakdown, losing seven straight games.

8. Eastern Michigan 2-9
"Paradise City:" Not sure if Ypsilanti could be considered a paradise city or not, but the Eagles have struggled there and on the road.

9. Miami (Ohio) 2-9
"There Was A Time:" The RedHawks used to be good. Remember when Ben Roethlisberger took them to the MAC title in 2003?

10. Michigan 3-9
"Appetite For Destruction:" The Wolverines set some records only the Bottom 10 could love: most losses ever in a season, a fifth straight loss to Ohio State and the largest loss to the Buckeyes in 40 years.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:24 pm

Usacomp2k3 wrote:So where would a 1-loss alabama figure in there?
Higher than a 2-loss Florida team. ;)

Assuming Florida wins and Oklahoma doesn't choke, it's probably the two of them playing in the "championship" game on the 8th. That drops Alabama back to the Fiesta or the Sugar, probably the latter (where they may end up facing Utah), setting up USC vs Texas in the Fiesta (an interesting rematch). Of course, Oregon State very easily could lose to Oregon in the Civil War this Saturday (especially since the more phenomenal of the Rodgers brothers is injured and likely won't play), which would put USC into the Rose and give Alabama a shot at Texas in the Fiesta. Which is probably the arrangement most people would prefer (it avoids re-playing the Oregon St-Penn St game from earlier in the season and allows the SEC Big 12 fans two opportunities to argue).
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:42 pm

5. Notre Dame 6-5
"November Rain:" It's been raining losses for the Irish in November. If their 1-3 record this month isn't bad enough, a shower of snowballs directed at them from their own student section during the Syracuse loss made it worse.


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Re: College football or bust!

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5. Notre Dame 6-5
"November Rain:" It's been raining losses for the Irish in November. If their 1-3 record this month isn't bad enough, a shower of snowballs directed at them from their own student section during the Syracuse loss made it worse.
The students weren't really throwing at their own team. But, like the team, the can't hit what they're throwing at either.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:07 pm

Here's a nightmare scenario,keeping in mind I didnt look over the rankings to intently.
Alabama loses to Auburn by 3 points or less in the final seconds.
Bama destroys Florida in the SEC championship.
OU blows out OSU .
Texas handily beats Texas A@M.
Oregon State beats Oregon for the Pac 10 championship and a trip the the Rose Bowl.
Does this pit OU vs Texas for the championship?
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:15 pm

rogue426 wrote:Here's a nightmare scenario,keeping in mind I didnt look over the rankings to intently.
Alabama loses to Auburn by 3 points or less in the final seconds.
Bama destroys Florida in the SEC championship.
OU blows out OSU .
Texas handily beats Texas A@M.
Oregon State beats Oregon for the Pac 10 championship and a trip the the Rose Bowl.
Does this pit OU vs Texas for the championship?

Alabama wont beat Florida. .. i guess if 75% of the starters on the florida team suddenly took sick.. then they might have a chance.

It'll be Florida vs Big 12 champ.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:43 pm

danny e. wrote:
rogue426 wrote:Here's a nightmare scenario,keeping in mind I didnt look over the rankings to intently.
Alabama loses to Auburn by 3 points or less in the final seconds.
Bama destroys Florida in the SEC championship.
OU blows out OSU .
Texas handily beats Texas A@M.
Oregon State beats Oregon for the Pac 10 championship and a trip the the Rose Bowl.
Does this pit OU vs Texas for the championship?

Alabama wont beat Florida. .. i guess if 75% of the starters on the florida team suddenly took sick.. then they might have a chance.

It'll be Florida vs Big 12 champ.


Like I said my nightmare scenario, I suspect no one saw Ole Miss beating Florida or Oregon State beating USC.It's hypothetical.If the last 2 college seasons have proved most anyone can beat anyone on any given day.Weren't the so called experts proclaiming USC tha best team ever under Pete Carrol before they lost or how no one gave Florida a remote chance of beating OSU 2 years ago for the championship.At this point the current BCS sysyem really sucks, bring in a 8 team playoff or lets go back to the old conference tie -ins and declare a winner after all the bowls are played.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:16 am

So what are your thoughts on the Big 12 and the three-way tie between Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas Tech? Personally, and yes I am an OU fan, I think that OU deserves the game vs. Missouri.

First of all: Yes, I am aware that Texas beat OU 45-35 on "neutral ground". The game is in Texas, there's no way that can be considered neutral. Yes, I know it's roughly the same driving distance between the two campuses, but it's still in Texas. If the game was held in New Mexico, Arkansas, etc., then I would be fine with Texas getting the nod.

Secondly, we beat Texas Tech 65-21. That's the same Texas Tech that beat Texas 39-33, so that should rule out the "head-to-head" advantage Texas might have when it comes to the BCS scoring.

Thirdly, Texas' last game was against A&M (an un-seeded team) at home. Was anybody surprised that Texas won? And what about Texas Tech? They barely won against Baylor (aka the doormat of the Big 12, and un-seeded) at home. Oklahoma on the other hand, beat Oklahoma State (ranked #12 by the BCS) 61-41 at Oklahoma State.

Can somebody point out what I'm missing as to why anybody but Oklahoma should be playing in the Big 12 championship? Seriously, I can't come up with anything.
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Re: College football or bust!

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Dizik wrote:So what are your thoughts on the Big 12 and the three-way tie between Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas Tech? Personally, and yes I am an OU fan, I think that OU deserves the game vs. Missouri.

First of all: Yes, I am aware that Texas beat OU 45-35 on "neutral ground". The game is in Texas, there's no way that can be considered neutral. Yes, I know it's roughly the same driving distance between the two campuses, but it's still in Texas. If the game was held in New Mexico, Arkansas, etc., then I would be fine with Texas getting the nod.

Secondly, we beat Texas Tech 65-21. That's the same Texas Tech that beat Texas 39-33, so that should rule out the "head-to-head" advantage Texas might have when it comes to the BCS scoring.

Thirdly, Texas' last game was against A&M (an un-seeded team) at home. Was anybody surprised that Texas won? And what about Texas Tech? They barely won against Baylor (aka the doormat of the Big 12, and un-seeded) at home. Oklahoma on the other hand, beat Oklahoma State (ranked #12 by the BCS) 61-41 at Oklahoma State.

Can somebody point out what I'm missing as to why anybody but Oklahoma should be playing in the Big 12 championship? Seriously, I can't come up with anything.

All valid points,being a closet Sooner fan I'd agree,however the head to head will make a difference in some voters minds,after all Texas' game against TTu was their 4th in a stretch against ranked teams wasn't it?.As for the neutral site at the Cotton Bowl ,imo, thats as neutral as you can get with OU and Longhorn fans divided right down the middle of the stadium.Personally at this point I'd just assume see undefeated Utah and Boise St. play for the championship, that would certainly shake up the system.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:57 pm

Boomer Sooner, baby.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:20 pm

Dizik wrote:Boomer Sooner, baby.

last week I would have bene happy, but after their pathetic defensive showign last night I think Texas is still the better team overall.
Texas exposed the OK line.. it'll be interesting to see if they get that fixed enough when they face Florida.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:28 pm

AP rankings, week 14 wrote: 1. Alabama (62) 12-0
2. Florida (3) 11-1
3. Texas 11-1
4. Oklahoma 11-1
5. Southern California 10-1
6. Penn State 11-1
7. Utah 12-0 :D
8. Texas Tech 11-1
9. Boise State 12-0 :(
10. Ohio State 10-2
11. Texas Christian 10-2
12. Ball State 12-0 8)
13. Cincinnati 10-2
14. Oklahoma State 9-3
15. Georgia Tech 8-3
16. Oregon 9-3
17. Georgia 9-3
18. Boston College 9-3
19. Missouri 9-3
20. Brigham Young 10-2
21. Michigan State 9-3
22. Mississippi 8-4
23. Pittsburgh 8-3
24. Northwestern 9-3
25. Oregon State 8-4
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Re: College football or bust!

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JustAnEngineer wrote:
AP rankings, week 14 wrote: 1. Alabama (62) 12-0
2. Florida (3) 11-1
3. Texas 11-1
4. Oklahoma 11-1
5. Southern California 10-1
6. Penn State 11-1
7. Utah 12-0 :D
8. Texas Tech 11-1
9. Boise State 12-0 :(
10. Ohio State 10-2
11. Texas Christian 10-2
12. Ball State 12-0 8)
13. Cincinnati 10-2
14. Oklahoma State 9-3
15. Georgia Tech 8-3
16. Oregon 9-3
17. Georgia 9-3
18. Boston College 9-3
19. Missouri 9-3
20. Brigham Young 10-2
21. Michigan State 9-3
22. Mississippi 8-4
23. Pittsburgh 8-3
24. Northwestern 9-3
25. Oregon State 8-4

Here's the rest ,OU got it's wish they're in the Big 12 championship game.
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1. Alabama 12-0
2. Oklahoma 11-1
3. Texas 11-1
4. Florida 11-1
5. USC 10-1
6. Utah 12-0
7. Texas Tech 11-1
8. Penn State 11-1
9. Boise State 12-0
10. Ohio State 10-2
11. TCU 10-2
12. Ball State 12-0
13. Cincinnati 10-2
14. Oklahoma State 9-3
15. Georgia Tech 8-3
16. Georgia 9-3
17. Boston College 9-3
18. BYU 10-2
19. Oregon 9-3
20. Missouri 9-3
21. Michigan State 9-3
22. Northwestern 9-3
23. Pitt 8-3
24. Florida State 8-4
25. Virginia Tech 8-4
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:07 pm

Weis will be back next year at ND. Good I look forward to the Big 10 having an easy target again.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:11 am

rogue426 wrote:Here's a nightmare scenario,keeping in mind I didnt look over the rankings to intently.
Alabama loses to Auburn by 3 points or less in the final seconds.
Bama destroys Florida in the SEC championship.
OU blows out OSU .
Texas handily beats Texas A@M.
Oregon State beats Oregon for the Pac 10 championship and a trip the the Rose Bowl.
Does this pit OU vs Texas for the championship?

actually.. it could still happen.
Humans will likely vote OK 1, Florida 2, Texas 3.
Computers may have Texas 2 still..

I'd actually kinda enjoy that happening simply because it will cause another uproar.
a playoff is what we need.

Oklahoma vs Florida will be interesting. I still wonder if Texas isnt the better team, but OK has definitely improved since their loss.. they can now run the ball and their defense is a little better.
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Re: College football or bust!

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danny e. wrote:
rogue426 wrote:Here's a nightmare scenario,keeping in mind I didnt look over the rankings to intently.
Alabama loses to Auburn by 3 points or less in the final seconds.
Bama destroys Florida in the SEC championship.
OU blows out OSU .
Texas handily beats Texas A@M.
Oregon State beats Oregon for the Pac 10 championship and a trip the the Rose Bowl.
Does this pit OU vs Texas for the championship?

actually.. it could still happen.
Humans will likely vote OK 1, Florida 2, Texas 3.
Computers may have Texas 2 still..

I'd actually kinda enjoy that happening simply because it will cause another uproar.
a playoff is what we need.

Oklahoma vs Florida will be interesting. I still wonder if Texas isnt the better team, but OK has definitely improved since their loss.. they can now run the ball and their defense is a little better.

As much as I'd like to see OU rip Florida,Big Game Boob always seems to strike as of late in championship games.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:58 pm

danny e. wrote:
actually.. it could still happen.
Humans will likely vote OK 1, Florida 2, Texas 3.
Computers may have Texas 2 still..

haha the coaches have indeed voted OK 1, Florida 2 & Texas 3.
so, there is still an outside chance the computers will have Texas above Florida enough to counter the human poll ?
that would be funny. I can just hear the commentators yelling about the computers on tv now.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:08 pm

AP rankings, week 15 wrote:1. Florida (50) 12-1
2. Oklahoma (9) 12-1
3. Texas (6) 11-1
4. Alabama 12-1
5. Southern California 11-1
6. Penn State 11-1
7. Utah 12-0 :D
8. Texas Tech 11-1
9. Boise State 12-0 :(
10. Ohio State 10-2
11. Texas Christian 10-2
12. Cincinnati 11-2
13. Oklahoma State 9-3
14. Georgia Tech 9-3
15. Oregon 9-3
16. Georgia 9-3
17. Brigham Young 10-2
18. Pittsburgh 9-3
19. Michigan State 9-3
20. Mississippi 8-4
21. Virginia Tech 9-4
22. Northwestern 9-3
23. Ball State 12-1 :cry:
24. Oregon State 8-4
25. Missouri 9-4
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:51 pm

There was actually a nightmare scenario where that Cincinnati-Hawaii game late last night actually mattered in the computer rankings. Because Oklahoma had beaten Cincinnati this season, and Florida had beaten Hawaii, if Hawaii had won against Cincinnati it would've dropped Oklahoma's strength-of-schedule enough to put them into 3rd, behind Florida and Texas. Now, the computer rankings are only 1/3rd of the total, so that wouldn't have been enough to knock OK out of the "championship" game by itself. But if OU had also looked less dominant against Missouri last night and influenced a few more of the human voters....

Poor Boise State. Undefeated and ranked 9th? You get to go to the Poinsettia bowl! (or something like that, probably facing the likes of TCU). At least San Diego is nice (and warmer than Idaho) this time of year....
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:59 pm

this is possibly going to be one of the worst bowl seasons ever.
Oklahoma vs Florida - this one ain't so bad.
USC vs Penn St. - crazy. no one in the big 10 deserves any bowl game. they all suck.
Texas Tech vs Mississippi - uhh Mississippi is improving but not enough.
Texas vs Ohio St. - Ohio St. is worse than Penn St. and they're playing the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country?!??! hahaha
Alabama vs Utah - yes, I've said Alabama was overrated, but they're better than Utah.

the only game that looks to be exciting here is OK vs Florida.

I'd like to see:
OK vs Florida
Alabama vs Texas
USC vs Texas Tech
Penn St. vs Northwest Missouri State. (Div II) :D
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Jan. 8   BCS Title   Miami, Fla.   Oklahoma (12-1) vs. Florida (12-1)
Jan. 5   Fiesta   Glendale, Ariz.   Texas (11-1) vs. Ohio State (10-2)
Jan. 2   Sugar   New Orleans, La.   Alabama (12-1) vs. Utah (12-0)
Jan. 1   Rose   Pasadena, Calif.   Penn State (11-1) vs. Southern California (11-1)
Jan. 1   Orange   Miami, Fla.   Virginia Tech (9-4) vs. Cincinnati (11-2)
Jan. 6   GMAC   Mobile, Ala.   ESPN   8 p.m.   Ball State vs. Tulsa
Jan. 3   International   Toronto   ESPN2   Noon   Connecticut vs. Buffalo
Jan. 2   Liberty   Memphis   ESPN   5 p.m.   East Carolina vs. Kentucky
Jan. 2   Cotton   Dallas   FOX   2 p.m.   Texas Tech vs. Mississippi
Jan. 1   Gator   Jacksonville   CBS   1 p.m.   Clemson vs. Nebraska
Jan. 1   Capital One   Orlando   ABC   1 p.m.   Michigan State vs. Georgia
Jan. 1   Outback   Tampa, Fla.   ESPN   11 a.m.   Iowa vs. South Carolina
Dec. 31   Chick-fil-A   Atlanta   ESPN   7:30 p.m.   LSU vs. Georgia Tech
Dec. 31   Insight   Glendale, Ariz.   NFL Net.   5:30 p.m.   Kansas vs. Minnesota
Dec. 31   Music City   Nashville   ESPN   3:30 p.m.   Vanderbilt vs. Boston College
Dec. 31   Sun   El Paso, Tex.   CBS   2 p.m.   Oregon State vs. Pittsburgh
Dec. 31   Armed Forces   Fort Worth, Tex.   ESPN   12:30 p.m.   Air Force vs. Houston
Dec. 30   Holiday   San Diego   ESPN   8 p.m.   Oklahoma State vs. Oregon
Dec. 30   Texas   Houston   NFL Net.   8 p.m.   Rice vs. Western Michigan
Dec. 30   Humanitarian   Boise, Idaho   ESPN2   4:30 p.m.   Nevada vs. Maryland
Dec. 29   Alamo   San Antonio   ESPN   8 p.m.   Northwestern vs. Missouri
Dec. 29   Papajohns.com   Birmingham, Ala.   ESPN   3 p.m.   Rutgers vs. North Carolina State
Dec. 28   Independence   Shreveport, La.   ESPN   8 p.m.   Louisiana Tech vs. Northern Illinois
Dec. 27   Emerald   San Francisco   ESPN   8 p.m.   Miami (Fla.) vs. California
Dec. 27   Champs Sports   Orlando   ESPN   4:30 p.m.   Florida State vs. Wisconsin
Dec. 27   Meineke Car Care   Charlotte   ESPN   1 p.m.   North Carolina vs. West Virginia
Dec. 26   Motor City   Detroit   ESPN   7:30 p.m.   Central Michigan vs. Florida Atlantic
Dec. 24   Hawaii   Honolulu   ESPN   8 p.m.   Hawaii vs. Notre Dame
Dec. 23   Poinsettia   San Diego   ESPN   8 p.m.   Texas Christian vs. Boise State
Dec. 21   New Orleans   New Orleans   ESPN   8 p.m.   Troy vs. Southern Miss
Dec. 20   EagleBank   Washington D.C.   ESPN   11 a.m.   Navy vs. Wake Forest
Dec. 20   Las Vegas   Las Vegas, Nev.   ESPN   8 p.m.   BYU vs. Arizona
Dec. 20   St. Petersburg   St. Petersburg, Fla.   ESPN2   4:30 p.m.   South Florida vs. Memphis
Dec. 20   New Mexico   Albuquerque, N.M.   ESPN   2:30 p.m.   Colorado State vs. Fresno State
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:20 pm

OK will lose another big game like they always do. The Rose Bowl will be the typical USC trouncing whatever the Big 10 decides to put up for the year. The rest of the games are nothing to be excited about. How on earth Ohio State deserves to play Texas this year is beyond me. Every year I become less of a fan of College Football.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:25 pm

Pettytheft wrote:OK will lose another big game like they always do. The Rose Bowl will be the typical USC trouncing whatever the Big 10 decides to put up for the year. The rest of the games are nothing to be excited about. How on earth Ohio State deserves to play Texas this year is beyond me. Every year I become less of a fan of College Football.

I think OK has a chance.. but I'm not entirely sure they wont lose either. It all depends on if they show up. The good news for OK fans is the team is definitely improving.. the bad news is there is more than a month for their players to get fat and lazy. :D

I'd say if the OK line holds up & they can at least have a few rushing plays for gains they will win. simple as that. on the other hand, if Florida can get through the OK line like Texas did then Florida has a chance to pound them.

Its all about the Florida defense vs the OK offense and nothing to do with the Florida offense. of course florida will score, but unless their D can stop OK, they will get outscored.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:28 pm

I'm surprised to see Ole Miss in there. But, bowl games are much more about which team's fans will bring the most cash to the city hosting the bowl than they are about which teams are the best.
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Re: College football or bust!

Postposted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:32 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:I'm surprised to see Ole Miss in there. But, bowl games are much more about which team's fans will bring the most cash to the city hosting the bowl than they are about which teams are the best.


Notre Dame snuck in somehow. How sad is that?
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