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Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:33 pm**

BCS rankings 12/2/2012 wrote:
1 Notre Dame .9978
2 Alabama .9441
3 Florida .8984
4 Oregon .8621
5 Kansas State .8226
6 Stanford .7683
7 Georgia .7583
8 Louisiana State .7511
9 Texas A&M .6756
10 South Carolina .6604
11 Oklahoma .6502
12 Florida State .5047
13 Oregon State .4716
14 Clemson .4693
15 Northern Illinois .3276
16 Nebraska .3264
17 California Los Angeles .2872
18 Michigan .2537
19 Boise State .2513
20 Northwestern .2327
21 Louisville .1808
22 Utah State .1787
23 Texas .1519
24 San Jose State .1346
25 Kent State .0772

AP rankings 12/2/2012 wrote:
1 Notre Dame (60) 12-0
2 Alabama 12-1
3 Ohio State 12-0
4 Florida 11-1
5 Oregon 11-1
6 Georgia 11-2
7 Kansas State 11-1
8 Stanford 11-2
9 Louisiana State 10-2
10 Texas A&M 10-2
11 South Carolina 10-2
12 Oklahoma 10-2
13 Florida State 11-2
14 Clemson 10-2
15 Oregon State 9-3
16 Northern Illinois 12-1
17 California Los Angeles 9-4
18 Utah State 10-2
19 Michigan 8-4
20 Boise State 10-2
21 Northwestern 9-3
22 Louisville 10-2
23 Nebraska 10-3
24 San Jose State 10-2
25 Kent State 11-2

Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:39 pm**

Wow, 6 of the top 10 are from the SEC. That's strong.

Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:54 pm**

1.) Your rankings are incorrect.

2.) You know the bowl system is a complete joke when the winner of the Big 10 championship plays against a lesser opponent than the loser of the Big 10 championship.
3.) And you know the rankings are a complete joke when the loser of the Big 10 championship gets trounced the way they did and are still ranked #16 in the BCS above the team that did the spanking.

4.) You know the system as a whole is a complete joke when Northern Illinois is in the top 25 after having beat absolutely no one.

The system is an absolute joke. Money and greed and corrupt officials have led the system to where it is. It is beyond repair without a much more extensive playoff system.

Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:54 pm**

While the top six teams of the Southeastern Conference were good, the bottom teams in the SEC were pretty bad this year.

STANDINGS       CONFERENCE        OVERALL
SEC - East      W-L   PF    PA     W-L   PF    PA
Georgia         7-1   268   145   11-2   484   244
Florida         7-1   207    95   11-1   321   155
South Carolina  6-2   229   169   10-2   377   209
Vanderbilt      5-3   177   168    8-4   352   219
Missouri        2-6   175   264    5-7   309   341
Tennessee       1-7   246   320    5-7   434   428
Kentucky        0-8    89   291   2-10   215   372

SEC - West      W-L   PF    PA     W-L   PF    PA
Alabama         7-1   303    90   12-1   500   139
Louisiana State 6-2   180   150   10-2   363   203
Texas A&M       6-2   313   168   10-2   537   270
Mississippi St. 4-4   202   223    8-4   363   269
Mississippi     3-5   224   239    6-6   371   342
Arkansas        2-6   157   257    4-8   282   365
Auburn          0-8    81   272    3-9   224   340

Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:41 pm**

Danny E., you should blame ESPN/Disney for what's wrong with college football bowls, not me.

Bowl Schedule wrote:
Gildan New Mexico - Albuquerque, NM - University Stadium
Nevada (7-5) vs. Arizona (7-5)
Dec. 15, 1 p.m. ESPN

Famous Idaho Potato - Boise, ID - Bronco Stadium
Toledo (9-3) vs. #22 Utah State (10-2)
Dec. 15, 4:30 p.m. ESPN

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia - San Diego, CA - Qualcomm Stadium
Brigham Young (7-5) vs. San Diego State (9-3)
Dec. 20, 8 p.m. ESPN

Beef 'O' Brady's St. Petersburg - St. Petersburg, FL - Tropicana Field
Central Florida (9-4) vs. Ball State (9-3)
Dec. 21, 7:30 p.m. ESPN

R+L Carriers New Orleans - New Orleans, LA - Mercedes-Benz Superdome
East Carolina (8-4) vs. Louisiana-Lafayette (8-4)
Dec. 22, Noon ESPN

MAACO Las Vegas - Las Vegas, NV - Sam Boyd Stadium
Washington (7-5) vs. #19 Boise State (10-2)
Dec. 22, 3:30 p.m. ESPN

Sheraton Hawaii - Honolulu, HI - Aloha Stadium
Fresno State (9-3) vs. Southern Methodist (6-6)
Dec. 24, 8 p.m. ESPN

Little Caesars Pizza - Detroit, MI - Ford Field
Western Kentucky (7-5) vs. Central Michigan (6-6)
Dec. 26, 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Military Bowl Presented By Northrop Grumman - Washington, D.C. - RFK Stadium
#24 San Jose State (10-2) vs. Bowling Green (8-4)
Dec. 27, 3 p.m. ESPN

Belk - Charlotte, NC - Bank of America Stadium
Cincinnati (9-3) vs. Duke (6-6)
Dec. 27, 6:30 p.m. ESPN

Bridgepoint Education Holiday - San Diego, CA - Qualcomm Stadium
Baylor (7-5) vs. #17 California Los Angeles (9-4)
Dec. 27, 9:45 p.m. ESPN

AdvoCare V100 Independence - Shreveport, LA - Independence Stadium
Ohio (8-4) vs. Louisiana-Monroe (8-4)
Dec. 28, 2 p.m. ESPN

Russell Athletic - Orlando, FL - Florida Citrus Bowl
Rutgers (9-3) vs. Virginia Tech (6-6)
Dec. 28, 5:30 p.m. ESPN

Meineke Car Care of Texas - Houston, TX - Reliant Stadium
Minnesota (6-6) vs. Texas Tech (7-5)
Dec. 28, 9 p.m. ESPN

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces - Fort Worth, TX - Amon G. Carter Stadium
Rice (6-6) vs. Air Force (6-6)
Dec. 29, 11:45 a.m. ESPN

New Era Pinstripe - Bronx, NY - Yankee Stadium
West Virginia (7-5) vs. Syracuse (7-5)
Dec. 29, 3:15 p.m. ESPN

Kraft Fight Hunger - San Francisco, CA - AT&T Park
Navy (7-4) vs. Arizona State (7-5)
Dec. 29, 4 p.m. ESPN2

Valero Alamo - San Antonio, TX - Alamodome
#23 Texas (8-4) vs. #13 Oregon State (9-3)
Dec. 29, 6:45 p.m. ESPN

Buffalo Wild Wings - Tempe, AZ - Sun Devil Stadium
Texas Christian (7-5) vs. Michigan State (6-6)
Dec. 29, 10:15 p.m. ESPN

Franklin American Mortgage Music City - Nashville, TN - LP Field
North Carolina State (7-5) vs. Vanderbilt (8-4)
Dec. 31, Noon ESPN

Hyundai Sun - El Paso, TX - Sun Bowl
Southern California (7-5) vs. Georgia Tech (6-7)
Dec. 31, 2 p.m. CBS

AutoZone Liberty - Memphis, TN - Liberty Bowl
Iowa State (6-6) vs. Tulsa (10-3)
Dec. 31, 3:30 p.m. ESPN

Chick-fil-A - Atlanta, GA - Georgia Dome
#8 Louisiana State (10-2) vs. #14 Clemson (10-2)
Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m. ESPN

TaxSlayer.com Gator - Jacksonville, FL - Everbank Field
Mississippi State (8-4) vs. #20 Northwestern (9-3)
Jan. 1, Noon ESPN2

Heart of Dallas - Dallas, TX - Cotton Bowl
Purdue (6-6) vs. Oklahoma State (7-5)
Jan. 1, Noon ESPNU

Outback - Tampa, FL - Raymond James Stadium
#10 South Carolina (10-2) vs. #18 Michigan (8-4)
Jan. 1, 1 p.m. ESPN

Capital One - Orlando, FL - Florida Citrus Bowl
#7 Georgia (11-2) vs. #16 Nebraska (10-3)
Jan. 1, 1 p.m. ABC

Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio - Pasadena, CA - Rose Bowl
Wisconsin (8-5) vs. #6 Stanford (11-2)
Jan. 1, 5 p.m. ESPN

Discover Orange - Miami, FL - Sun Life Stadium
#15 Northern Illinois (12-1) vs. #12 Florida State (11-2)
Jan. 1, 8:30 p.m. ESPN

Allstate Sugar - New Orleans, LA - Louisiana Superdome
#21 Louisville (10-2) vs. #3 Florida (11-1)
Jan. 2, 8:30 p.m. ESPN

Tostitos Fiesta - Glendale, AZ - U. of Phoenix Stadium
#4 Oregon (11-1) vs. #5 Kansas State (11-1)
Jan. 3, 8:30 p.m. ESPN

AT&T Cotton - Arlington, TX - Cowboys Stadium
#9 Texas A&M (10-2) vs. #11 Oklahoma (10-2)
Jan. 4, 8 p.m. FOX

BBVA Compass - Birmingham, AL - Legion Field
Pittsburgh (6-6) vs. Mississippi (6-6)
Jan. 5, 1 p.m. ESPN

GoDaddy.com - Mobile, AL - Ladd-Peebles Stadium
#25 Kent State (11-2) vs. Arkansas State (9-3)
Jan. 6, 9 p.m. ESPN

Discover BCS National Championship - Miami, FL - Sun Life Stadium
#1 Notre Dame (12-0) vs. #2 Alabama (12-1)
Jan. 7, 8:30 p.m. ESPN

Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:05 pm**

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Danny E., you should blame ESPN/Disney for what's wrong with college football bowls, not me.

I wasnt blaming you for anything other than the incorrect BCS rankings.

Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:06 pm**

LSU versus Clemson is going to be an interesting game.

Posted: **Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:24 pm**

The BCS was designed with one goal and one goal only: to get a #1 vs #2 title game. And it has achieved that goal, for the most part. All the rest was just filler thrown in there, they really should have just made the BCS a single game and left it at that

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:03 am**

danny e. wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:
Danny E., you should blame ESPN/Disney for what's wrong with college football bowls, not me.
I wasnt blaming you for anything other than the incorrect BCS rankings.

Those were copied off of the ESPN website, too.

I have since corrected them.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:07 am**

It's surprising that there are so many bad 6-6 teams in bowl games but the 9-3 team from Louisiana Tech didn't make it to a bowl game.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:14 am**

JustAnEngineer wrote:
It's surprising that there are so many bad 6-6 teams in bowl games but the 9-3 team from Louisiana Tech didn't make it to a bowl game.

One article I read said that they either turned down or didn't immediately accept a bowl bid.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:25 am**

I know what you mean Danny. I'm a University of Michigan alumnus and I still think it's unfair. Last year Michigan State beat Michigan during the regular season and had a better record, but University of Michigan went to a better bowl. The reason for this is that the bowls are looking for the largest TV audience and the most money that they can bring into the area. Michigan alumni are a larger and wealthier group than Michigan State alumni, so Michigan got the bowl.

The bowl system is quite silly, but it's just a part of the silly college football system. Personally, I think that the whole concept of college football as the measure of a school's prestige is ridiculous.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:30 am**

idchafee wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:
It's surprising that there are so many bad 6-6 teams in bowl games but the 9-3 team from Louisiana Tech didn't make it to a bowl game.

One article I read said that they either turned down or didn't immediately accept a bowl bid.

Found it

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--lou ... 53941.html

Several media outlets reported the Independence Bowl invited Louisiana Tech to Shreveport, but athletic director Bruce Van De Velde turned it down. A rumored reason was because of an aversion to a possible matchup with Louisiana-Monroe. The two schools have a complex relationship and it's easy to infer Tech did not want to entertain the idea of a showdown for bragging rights. But Louisiana Tech released a statement denying the school had rejected an "official invitation."

"Contrary to media reports, at no time did I, our head coach or a member of our administration turn down an official invitation to any bowl game," Van De Velde said in the statement. "In consultation with our coach and our university president, we asked Independence Bowl officials for more time to make a decision until we could properly consider all postseason options that were available to Louisiana Tech. Unfortunately, we were not afforded that time and the decision was made to rescind the offer."

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:52 pm**

danny e. wrote:
1.) Your rankings are incorrect.

2.) You know the bowl system is a complete joke when the winner of the Big 10 championship plays against a lesser opponent than the loser of the Big 10 championship.
3.) And you know the rankings are a complete joke when the loser of the Big 10 championship gets trounced the way they did and are still ranked #16 in the BCS above the team that did the spanking.

4.) You know the system as a whole is a complete joke when Northern Illinois is in the top 25 after having beat absolutely no one.

The system is an absolute joke. Money and greed and corrupt officials have led the system to where it is. It is beyond repair without a much more extensive playoff system.

While I agree with your assessments on the bowl system as its set up , it is what it is, at least they've agreed to a 4 team playoff for the future. I'm not sure what wrong with Wisconsin vs Stanford for the Rose Bowl, it's the standard Pac 12 champ vs Big 10 champ like its always been. ( or is it 12?). I'm not sure whats wrong with Georgia vs Nebraska either, both games look like good match ups.I would think both of those games would appeal to the fan base of all 4 teams involved. The rankings are what they are, Wisconsin spanked Nebraska , they deserve to go to the Rose. On a side note the Big East getting an AQ BCS bowl bid should seriously be re examined . Looking through the list there are a lot of interesting games that look to be competitive including K State vs Oregon ( I was so looking forward to 2 non SEC teams this year)

Posted: **Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:14 pm**

Gonna be a long & glum flight back to South Bend.

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