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Finally! New rig on the way!

Postposted on Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:53 pm

Well, after using this wonderful 300MHz K6-2 system for awhile, I ordered (most) of a new rig. Here's what I got:

Thermaltake 480W PSU
Antec Full Tower ATX Case
Asus K8N nForce3/250Gb motherboard
Athlon 64 3700+
1GB Corsair ValueSelect DDR400 RAM
HP 3745 Printer (only because it was free)
BenQ DW1620Pro DVD+/-R/RW Drive
Lite-On 166S DVD-ROM Drive (?)

The case/optical drives I already had. I still need to order the hard drives and video card - that'll have to wait till I get paid next week. HDDs will be 2x300GB Maxtors, video card will be a 6800GT (since it's only $277 now). The Lite-On POS is going to be the first thing to go, too. I want something that doesn't sound like a jet engine when reading a CD. I'm thinking a PX-716 for a primary burner, and using the BenQ for reading.

Now: some will question why S754? Here's why: cost/performance ratio.

This thing is mostly for games, and I do want to move to dual-core in the future. But, seeing as how costly that is, how poor I am, and since I'm mostly playing games, this seemed the best setup (the new X2/3800+ would have been more $, plus slower at games).

S754 is cheap; the CPUs are FAST; hell, the 3400+ will beat a S939 3500+ (and probably the S939 3700+) for alot less money. Me, I'll take 200MHz more speed over dual channel memory ANY day. Now, is the extra $50 for the 3700+ worth it over the 3400+? Probably not - it's mostly to make me feel good :) - and hopefully help a bit when I do multitask.

Sure, I lose that "long term upgradability." But the last time I just upgraded a CPU was when moving from a 50MHz 486 to a 75MHz 486 - and only thing because it was free. As for PCI-E, well, no real point right now. By the time this won't run the games I want, the 7800GTX is going to be considered slow, so big whoop.

Next up: a nice 19" LCD (I'm thinking Viewsonic unless I can find a dell on sale), and some nice speakers (Z-5500?)...
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Postposted on Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:06 pm

No need to feel slighted fella..im runnin a 3700 754 @2.56 and happy as hell with the performance. Save your money up for a good lookin hooker..better perf guaranteed :wink:
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Postposted on Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:55 pm

Slighted? Not in the least! I love the 754 platform! But, some here think the 939 is the best thing ever. I'd agree, if AMD didn't dock 200MHz from the CPUs for each PR rating :(

But hey! There isn't one damn thing the 3700+ is going to be "slow" at! I can't wait!

'corse, I gotta get that Aquagate Mini still and see how far I can push the thing :wink:
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Postposted on Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:29 pm

Ok, now I'm mad. :evil:

AMD has a Socket 754 4000+ coming - 2.6GHz, 1MB cache.

Figures. I could really use the extra clock speed. Wonder how the price is compared to the "real" 4000+? I'd still take this one over the 939 version, just for the 200MHz speed bump.

And yeah, its a mobile part, so now, they're not keeping 754 alive on the desktop. But just about any desktop board would be able to run one.
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Postposted on Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:25 pm

I also own a 3400+ and socket 754 motherboard. Both together cost around $270. That is a darn good value compared to a 3500+ and socket 939 motherboard... and my solution offers better performance of the two.

The only reason 939 makes sense is if you're building an entirely new system or have an old video card. For us folks who have a current video card, socket754 easily offers the best value/performance. In the last 5 years, I have NEVER upgraded just a CPU or motherboard. I always do it in pairs [so the longevity argument for 939 loses steam].

Plus, I have a strong feeling that nVidia and hopefully Ati will release AGP variants of their next-generation stuff. There is still a huge market out there, and PCI-e offers no gains over AGP in terms of performance. I only like PCI-e since it can provide more power and allows for SLI.
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Postposted on Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:26 pm

TheDVDMan wrote:
AMD has a Socket 754 4000+ coming - 2.6GHz, 1MB cache.



Where did you read that? Link please?
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Postposted on Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:51 pm

Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... i=2476&p=3

And yikes; those M2's are gonna Prescott-like HOT :o
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Postposted on Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:35 pm

Hmmm...me thinks my uniwill lappy will love that 4000 chip...hot damn :lol:
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