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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:13 pm

Case: 100588 - PS 450W - Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet $99.00

Case Fan: 100887 - 120mm - Antec 120mm SmartCool Case Fan $18.00

Motherboard: 110630 - DFI Lan Party UT nForce4 SLI-DR Audio/GB- $168.00

Processor: 120241 - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual-Core 1MB $497.00

Memory: 140917 - DDR (400) 3200 - 1 GB (2 pcs 512) Corsair $136.00

2nd Memory: 140917 - DDR (400) 3200 - 1 GB (2 pcs 512) Corsair $136.00

Hard Drive: 150939 - SATA3G - Western Digital Caviar SE 250 GB 16MB cache $118.00

2nd Hard Drive: 150939 - SATA3G - Western Digital Caviar SE 250 GB 16MBcache $118.00

RAID Setup: 80011 - RAID 0 (Zero) $25.00


CD-RW/DVD-RW: 160238 - DVD±RW - NEC ND-3540A 16X Dual Layer DVD± $45.00


Sound Card: 180212 - Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 7.1 24- $36.00

Video Card: 190466 - eVGA GeForce 7800 GT CO 256MB DDR3/PCI-E/ $368.00


Operating System: 210222 - Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 (O $121.00

Warranty: 800009 - 3 Year - Parts & Labor - Plus $49.00

Half Life 2 Promotion: 27F854 - FREE Half Life 2 Full Version

CD-RW Software: 210613 - Ahead Nero 6.3 Suite DVD+-RW

Lance Armstrong: 270447 - Lance Armstrong LIVE STRONG wristband
Free Giveaway: 270252 - Sapphire Lanyard (Long Keychain) - Free!
FREE Patriot SD USB Flash Kit: 14A502 - 128 MB Patriot SD Fla
Subtotal for 80390 with your selected options: $1,999.99
Order Total: $1,999.99

I configured the above from Monarch PC. :D
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:22 pm

That is beatable but still a good system.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:23 pm

What would you change?
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:26 pm

Well, that's a good deal. But personally, I'd drop the Creative card and use the onboard, or get some other non-Creative product. But that's just a personal choice.

What's this? " RAID Setup: 80011"? The board has onboard RAID.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:28 pm

I'd go with xp pro rather than media center, unless that is what you are going to be using your computer for.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:28 pm

I was going to say that personally I wouldn't bother with the creative sound card, but then I noticed it's a media centre so maybe it does make sense. It's only $36 too

Don't understand the RAID bit either.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:30 pm

The raid $25 extra charge is for Monarch to set up the raid 0 system, not for a card or anything.

I was told by a Monarch PC tele-rep that Media was the same as XP Pro with Extra features. Not so?

I understood that having any add on sound card would decrease the CPU usage considerably, which is why I added a cheap card beyond the one included on the MB.

The Corsair memmory is the 3200C2Pro type, FYI
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:46 pm

Most onboard is good enough for me...but if I planned on outputting to a decent amp or speaker set, I'd go for something like a Revolution or M-Audio's newest model, then use the onboard for gaming.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:46 pm

Nice system Boxster.Just out of curiosity ,what's the price difference between the 4400 X2 and the 4600X2?The reason I ask,is because the 200 mhz clock difference with the 4600 might be better than the increased cache of the 4400.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:51 pm

The AMD X2 4600 is $640, a big jump. Thanx, Good thought though.

I plan on OC the 4400 with that DFI MB...

Anyother tweaks?
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:54 pm

Boxster-S wrote:The AMD X2 4600 is $640, a big jump. Thanx, Good thought though.

I plan on OC the 4400 with that DFI MB...

Anyother tweaks?


Personally,and this is my own preference,I'd get one of the new Plextor burners,they're more expensive,but worth the cost in my opinion.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:57 pm

Hmmm. I do a Lot of DVD burning... but the Plextor 16x's are about $100 more. Worth it in your experience?
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:01 pm

Boxster-S wrote:Hmmm. I do a Lot of DVD burning... but the Plextor 16x's are about $100 more. Worth it in your experience?


If burning DVD's is a big part of what you use your comp for then yes,without a doubt,I'd spend the extra bone on the Plexy,that's just my opinion,I think they make the best in the business.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:02 pm

Boxster-S wrote:Hmmm. I do a Lot of DVD burning... but the Plextor 16x's are about $100 more. Worth it in your experience?


If burning DVD's is a big part of what you use your comp for then yes,without a doubt,I'd spend the extra bone on the Plexy,that's just my opinion,I think they make the best in the business.Plus ,they have good software tools withy their drives.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:59 pm

you could also just get a high quality 2GB (2 x 1GB) mem kit to replace the 4 sticks (which you have priced @ $270).
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:04 pm

rogue426 wrote:Nice system Boxster.Just out of curiosity ,what's the price difference between the 4400 X2 and the 4600X2?The reason I ask,is because the 200 mhz clock difference with the 4600 might be better than the increased cache of the 4400.

nah, cuz you should easily be able to take the 4400+ from 2.2 to 2.4 and then you still have the extra cache.

I bought the 4400+ for that reason, even though it is still outrageously expensive
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:28 pm

My take:
- get 2x1GB RAM, then you can run 1T timings
- Unless you are going to capture TV/video, save yourself $25 and use the 2 drives separately. You don't want me to list the bunch of links about how useless RAID 0 is in normal circumstances. :)
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:34 pm

that sound card isn't worth getting, IMHO. I would either get something nice or not something at all, or you may not notice the difference.
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Postposted on Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:54 pm

if you nuked the sound card and saved a bit on ram, you could get the new Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:24 am

How about this config...crap, don't have the exact text with links on here. Basically for $2100 from the 'egg I configured:
2xopteron 265 (cheapest dual-core)
asus mobo
4x1gb ECC pc3200
3x74gb raptors
Antec Case
500-something watt PSU
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:45 am

Everyone is selecting 4 sticks, while thats not a great idea with the A64's. I would take some 2x 1GB OCZ PC4000EB, great overclocking too. But there are anyways lots of things I would save some money on to boost other components. Like the 2 HDD's, one is plenty. If you WANT to use RAID, get some smaller HDD's. I would also get another GPU, like the 7800GTX, and another sound card. What you have now isnt bad, but not good as well. If you dont have any money left for a better one, just dont take it at all. But I would buy an Audigy2 ZS if money is a problem, otherwise the X-Fi series. But first of all, what do you want to do with the system?
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:25 am

the newer A64s don't have the 4 stick problems the old ones did. (to the best of my knowledge)
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:07 am

SpotTheCat wrote:the newer A64s don't have the 4 stick problems the old ones did. (to the best of my knowledge)
No problem running DDR400 yes, but still at 2T command rate.
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:59 am

But first of all, what do you want to do with the system?

Fold, surf, email, video/audio encode, burn dvd/cd's, game, wordprocess but not necessarily in that order.



I like the idea of only using two slots for memory at 1g each but I recently read an article ?Anandtech that the 1g sticks were not as fast as the 512's.

I don't use the surround sound system I have not, just the bass and two front speakers so the sound is not vital too me. I burn but rarely listen to MP3's on my system.

The need or lack of need for a raid system also makes sense if a micron or two of a second is all that is involved in most situations.
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:01 am

computron9000 wrote:if you nuked the sound card and saved a bit on ram, you could get the new Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe



What's the claim to fame here?
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:05 am

[quote="Bob Maenhout"]I would also get another GPU, like the 7800GTX, and another sound card."


I am getting the SLI MB in hopes to put in another 7800GT down the road when they get cheaper. I think the cost/benefit of having two 7800GT's soon is better than a GTX now.
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:58 am

Boxster-S wrote:I like the idea of only using two slots for memory at 1g each but I recently read an article ?Anandtech that the 1g sticks were not as fast as the 512's.
When did you read on Anandtech? Their latest article proclaimed fast 1gig sticks have arrived. 512meg sticks are only fast if you can run them at 1T, if you put 4 sticks then it will be 2T, defeating the purpose of "fast". Besides, will you really notice the difference?

Boxster-S wrote:The need or lack of need for a raid system also makes sense if a micron or two of a second is all that is involved in most situations.
A micron or 2? You won't really notice it, besides it's mostly for game loads. Save the cash and say, GT->GTX you will get much more performance in game, more worth it IMO.
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:03 am

I would likewise say only get 2x1gb sticks of ram. Also, i would forget about the raid 0. I just came off raid 0, and yes, some things are faster, but its not that big of a deal. I would say get a 76gb raptor for your main drive, a big 300gb dump drive, and an audigy 2.
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:11 am

Boxster-S wrote:
Bob Maenhout wrote:I would also get another GPU, like the 7800GTX, and another sound card."


I am getting the SLI MB in hopes to put in another 7800GT down the road when they get cheaper. I think the cost/benefit of having two 7800GT's soon is better than a GTX now.

Hmmm, well, ATM its true, but you heard about the new 512MB version coming out? :P
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Postposted on Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:02 pm

There's one thing I'd change if I was buying it right now. The CPU I'd buy from newegg, and because of that get their promotion of Nero 7 Ultra (whatever that is) with it, and not have to buy the 6.3 version you've listed.

But maybe the HL2 from Monarch only comes if you get the CPU+mobo there.
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