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Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:21 am

I'm about to take the plunge on a new system, and I'm very interested in the TR Spring 2011 Sweeter Spot.

Here is the build TR has:

Intel Core i7-2600K
Asus P8P67 PRO
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
XFX Radeon HD 6950 1GB
Intel 320 Series 120GB
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
LG WH10LS30 Blu-ray burner
Asus Xonar DG
Corsair Graphite Series 600T
Corsair TX750W

The changes I am making:

XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 GB x 2 (going with the 2 GB model and getting two of them for CrossFire)
I intend to flash the BIOS on these cards to bring them up to the 6970 including the clock speed.

Knowing this, will the enclosure and power supply suffice? This is primarily for gaming. I do intend to overclock the CPU, but I'd like to keep it reasonable - maybe 4.2 GHz (which is what most reviewers I've read claim you can get with the stock cooler).
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:37 am

Welcome to the TR forums!

TR editors did a good job with the Sweeter Spot- it's very hard to find fault. I only have a couple of comments:

If you are buying today or soon, this combo from Newegg has your board and a $40 discount with G.Skill memory. This particular G.Skill is $120 and is a little faster than the Corsair Vengeance, but the discount essentially makes it $80. I consider G.Skill equal to Corsair nowadays, and mostly go on aesthetics- but the Corsair 600T has no window, so no worries there; I'd just rather have the Vengeance behind a window personally.

You want a cooler. While you can get 4.2GHz on the stock cooler, you're not going to want to listen to it! This Cooler Master unit is among the best rated for inexpensive coolers; for something more impressive, try Corsair's H60. Either should get you to a comfortable 4.5GHz.

Intel's 320 series is a solid choice, but you might consider OCZ's Vertex II as well; price per GB matters most here though.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:18 am

Airmantharp's link for (what I presume to be) the Hyper 212+ shows it's been deactivated for some reason. Barring the availability of the Cooler Master, also consider a Xigmatek HDT-S1283. They're pretty quiet and very impressive in cooling ability (it's what I've got and I love it).
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:43 pm

Please post CrossFire benchmarks. I am very curious how multi gpu scales on on P67 at x8 as opposed to X58 at x16.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:11 am

I should be ordering this stuff next week. I'll post build pictures and benchmarks once it has all arrived and has been assembled and tested.

Thanks for the advice, everyone! If the Newegg motherboard/RAM combination is still on sale when I order then I'll go that route.

I've also decided to go with the an after-market cooler, but I have a few questions. Airmantharp, you recommended the Corsair H60 (your link to the Cooler Master goes to a deactivated product). I see it's a liquid cooled part. Does this mean I'd need a pump and radiator setup? I'd like to stick with air cooling if possible, as I'm not going for extreme overclocking.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:26 am

The Corsair H series is all self-contained. The pump/radiator/block/hoses all come pre-assembled. You just mount the block on your CPU and bolt the fan/radiator to your 120mm output and plug it in. I won an H50 from TR in the 10th anniversary giveaway - pretty sweet setup, if you don't mind spending more.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:32 am

derFunkenstein wrote:The Corsair H series is all self-contained. The pump/radiator/block/hoses all come pre-assembled. You just mount the block on your CPU and bolt the fan/radiator to your 120mm output and plug it in. I won an H50 from TR in the 10th anniversary giveaway - pretty sweet setup, if you don't mind spending more.


I will add that these coolers are designed to be used as intakes, and should only be used to exhaust when they could be reasonably expected to get cool air from within the case- look at Silverstone's Raven series and their Fortress 2. My suggestion with the 600T is to mount it on the 120mm 'exhaust' on the top of the back panel as an intake. The slightly warmer air it brings in will be immediately exhausted by the top 200mm fan.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:23 pm

FakeAlGore wrote:I'm about to take the plunge on a new system, and I'm very interested in the TR Spring 2011 Sweeter Spot.

Here is the build TR has:

Intel Core i7-2600K
Asus P8P67 PRO
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
XFX Radeon HD 6950 1GB
Intel 320 Series 120GB
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
LG WH10LS30 Blu-ray burner
Asus Xonar DG
Corsair Graphite Series 600T
Corsair TX750W

The changes I am making:

XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 GB x 2 (going with the 2 GB model and getting two of them for CrossFire)
I intend to flash the BIOS on these cards to bring them up to the 6970 including the clock speed.

Knowing this, will the enclosure and power supply suffice? This is primarily for gaming. I do intend to overclock the CPU, but I'd like to keep it reasonable - maybe 4.2 GHz (which is what most reviewers I've read claim you can get with the stock cooler).


Looks good to me :D .
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:24 pm

Airmantharp wrote:
derFunkenstein wrote:The Corsair H series is all self-contained. The pump/radiator/block/hoses all come pre-assembled. You just mount the block on your CPU and bolt the fan/radiator to your 120mm output and plug it in. I won an H50 from TR in the 10th anniversary giveaway - pretty sweet setup, if you don't mind spending more.


I will add that these coolers are designed to be used as intakes, and should only be used to exhaust when they could be reasonably expected to get cool air from within the case- look at Silverstone's Raven series and their Fortress 2. My suggestion with the 600T is to mount it on the 120mm 'exhaust' on the top of the back panel as an intake. The slightly warmer air it brings in will be immediately exhausted by the top 200mm fan.


+1 for the Fortress FT-02B.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:11 pm

michael_d wrote:Please post CrossFire benchmarks. I am very curious how multi gpu scales on on P67 at x8 as opposed to X58 at x16.

Last benchmarks I saw of x8 Crossfire versus x16 Crossfire showed negligible (less than 2%) differences.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:35 pm

I like this build. That PSU should do fine. I've been running it for a long while now, and it's never let me down.
I'm assuming that you have at least one large high resolution display you are hooking up to this rig.

By all reviews I've seen ( too lazy to look, but I've seen a bunch ) the x8 isn't much of an issue.

I'm going to upvote a cooler. I love my Coolermaster Hyper 212+. It's not expensive, but cools very effectively.

Good build sir!
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:39 pm

if you plan to overclock at all just go ahead and get an aftermarket heatsink right away, doesnt have to be an expensive one
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:36 am

I'd say have a look at the HX series PSU from Corsair, same as the TX, just that the HX is modular and won't cause a jumble of cables at the bottom of your rig like I did to mine :-?

750W should work with a crossfire system, but I'd say for $20 more you can get the 850W version and be more sure that it will power both cards.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:43 am

ExoGeni wrote:I'd say have a look at the HX series PSU from Corsair, same as the TX, just that the HX is modular and won't cause a jumble of cables at the bottom of your rig like I did to mine :-?

750W should work with a crossfire system, but I'd say for $20 more you can get the 850W version and be more sure that it will power both cards.


750W is far more than you need- you can get away with 650W easy for the system he is looking at (they are under 500W load). 750W is the safety net :). Also, while modular PSUs are quite nice (I love my HX620), I really only see need the for them in space-limited situations or when you have a window and would otherwise be unable to easily hide all of the extra cabling.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:08 am

Alright, so I'm updating the build to include an after-market cooler, and I like the modular PSU for only $40 more. Also, since my budget just increased a bit more thanks to another gig, I think I'm going to buy real 6970s instead of flashing two 6950s. I might get a higher overclock out of them.

Now, though, it looks like Intel is going to phase out the P67 in favor of the Z68 according to this.

Should I wait until May to buy a Z68-based motherboard, or will the P67-based board be just fine? I do some video editing, but I'm not sure it would be often enough (one video a month on average) to make the enhanced Virtu support a necessity. In other words, is there a compelling reason to wait for Z68 other than better Virtu support? If not, I suspect I'll just go ahead and order everything next week.

Thanks again for all of your suggestions.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:55 pm

FakeAlGore wrote:Alright, so I'm updating the build to include an after-market cooler, and I like the modular PSU for only $40 more. Also, since my budget just increased a bit more thanks to another gig, I think I'm going to buy real 6970s instead of flashing two 6950s. I might get a higher overclock out of them.

Now, though, it looks like Intel is going to phase out the P67 in favor of the Z68 according to this.

Should I wait until May to buy a Z68-based motherboard, or will the P67-based board be just fine? I do some video editing, but I'm not sure it would be often enough (one video a month on average) to make the enhanced Virtu support a necessity. In other words, is there a compelling reason to wait for Z68 other than better Virtu support? If not, I suspect I'll just go ahead and order everything next week.

Thanks again for all of your suggestions.


I would just get the P67-based mobo if I were you.
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:51 pm

I just wanted to update to let everyone know that I ordered my gear on Wednesday. Unfortunately, thanks to some car trouble on Monday, I wound up being able to spend far less than I wanted. So I bought the exact Sweeter Spot build minus the sound card (because I mainly use a USB headset) and downgrading the Blu-Ray burner to just a player (since I don't think I'll ever burn a Blu-Ray disc in my life).

Thanks for the recommendations. I wish I could have used them all. :(
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Re: Critique my build, please.

Postposted on Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:06 pm

Thanks for giving us the opportunity to help!

I'm sorry to hear about your car trouble, but I'm sure that it will work out- and I'm sure that your new components will be great. Let us know how it goes!
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