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Fall 2011 Utility Player/Suggestions and Comments

Postposted on Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:36 am

It’s a rather long post. Please bear with me Techreport's reader :)

Budget: $700-$1000

Intended Usage: Gaming at high or ultra setting at 2560x1600 resolution (BF3, Skyrim, and Batman: Arkham City).
1. I plan to overclock the CPU just a bit, nothing extreme.
2. I often like to tinkle with the pc, so a roomy and easy to use case closure is a must.

When? Before the end of the year. I plan to utilize Black Friday and Cyber Monday to obtain most of the parts if not all.

Location: I live in San Francisco Bay Area, California.

Questions:
1. Should I salvage some part of the current system or sell them on ebay?
a. I plan to sell the CPU, motherboard, memory and graphic card
b. Salvage the SSD, DVD drive, PSU and case

2. Does the new system fulfill my intended usage?

3. Any error I should correct from my part list?

4. Will all the new parts fit into the Antec P182 case and/or Corsair 600T case?

Comments:
1. After three years of getting acquainted with building personal computer and helping various individuals with their personal computers, I began to understand that it is worth it to stick with the Utility Player base if I plan to upgrade to newer part. While there is nothing wrong with the Sweet Spot system, I felt that it is not path for someone who is only looking for the PC gaming experience and plan to upgrade to newer technology in 3 year+. Technology is moving so fast that most of the time, old pc parts must be replace completely such. If I want to upgrade from a E8400 to an i5, I must get a new motherboard and memory stick.

2. For example, three years ago I built my current system (look below for the specifications) thinking that I could make extensive upgrade in a couple of years. Fast forward to 2011, I only made three upgrades: I added the SSD, switched the Radeon 4850 with the Radeon 5850, and increased from 2GB of ram to 4GB. Back in 2008, I thought that when a new CPU comes out, I just get the new CPU and replace the old CPU. However, that is not the case. I must get a new motherboard and memory stick as well.

3. Therefore, I decided to stick with the Utility Player base and upgrade the graphic card and maybe more memory sticks in a couple of years. Is this a worthwhile way to go about or am I forgetting something important?

Other Information:

1. Computer Shops close to my home: Microcenter, Fry’s Electronics, and Best-Buy
2. If anything is confusing, please ask me to clarify. Thank you.

Current System

CPU : Intel E8400
CPU Cooler : Stock
Motherboard: Asus P5Q Pro
Memory : Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2
Hard Drive: Corsair CSSD-V128 GB
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3750330AS 750GB
CD/DVD Burner SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Video Card : Asus Radeon 5850
Sound Card :Built into most motherboards
Network Card :Built into most motherboards
Power Supply: Corsair TX 550W
Case : Antec P182
Monitor: Dell 3008WFP 30 INCH Game at 2560x1600 Resolution
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate

Future System w/ spare parts

Cost: $650


Mostly in line with the Utility Player from Fall 2011 System Guide

CPU: Intel i5-2500K
CPU Cooler: Stock
Mobo: Asus P8Z68-V LE
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
Graphic: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti OC
Storage: Corsair CSSD-V128 GB (Old)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3750330AS 750GB (Old)
Drive: CD/DVD Burner SAMSUNG (Old)
Sound Card :Built in
Network Card :Built in
Power Supply: Corsair TX 550W (Old)
Case : Antec P182 (Old)
Monitor: Dell 3008WFP 30 INCH Game at 2560x1600 Resolution
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (Old)

Future System without spare parts


Cost: $950


CPU: Intel i5-2500K
CPU Cooler: Stock
Mobo: Asus P8Z68-V LE http://amzn.com/B005BZNE6G
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
Graphic: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti OC http://amzn.com/B0051GK5K8
Storage: Corsair Force 3 120 GB http://amzn.com/B0051A8T52
Drive: CD/DVD Burner ASUS http://amzn.com/B0033Z2BAQ
Sound Card :Built in
Network Card :Built in
Power Supply: Seasonic M12II 520Whttp://amzn.com/B003M2YQYO
Case : Corsair 600T White Special Edition http://amzn.com/B004O0PAKW
Monitor: Dell 3008WFP 30 INCH Game at 2560x1600 Resolution
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (Old)
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Re: Fall 2011 Utility Player/Suggestions and Comments

Postposted on Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:10 am

tombking wrote:Current System
Hard Drive: Corsair CSSD-V128 GB
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3750330AS 750GB
CD/DVD Burner SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
Video Card : Asus Radeon 5850
Power Supply: Corsair TX 550W
Case : Antec P182
Monitor: Dell 3008WFP 30 INCH Game at 2560x1600 Resolution
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate

Future System w/ spare parts Cost: $650
Mostly in line with the Utility Player from Fall 2011 System Guide
CPU: Intel i5-2500K
CPU Cooler: Stock
Mobo: Asus P8Z68-V LE
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
Graphic: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti OC
Storage: Corsair CSSD-V128 GB (Old)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3750330AS 750GB (Old)
Drive: CD/DVD Burner SAMSUNG (Old)
Sound Card :Built in
Network Card :Built in
Power Supply: Corsair TX 550W (Old)
Case : Antec P182 (Old)
Monitor: Dell 3008WFP 30 INCH Game at 2560x1600 Resolution
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (Old)
Consider an aftermarket CPU cooler like the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+.
The non-LE version of the P8Z68-V does better with Crossfire-X or SLI.
Consider PC3-12800 for the same price as PC3-10600. 2x4 GiB Corsair Vengeance kits are attractively priced.
Consider hanging on to your Radeon HD5850 until the 28nm GPUs appear.
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Re: Fall 2011 Utility Player/Suggestions and Comments

Postposted on Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:21 pm

Thank you for your respond. Following your advice, I bought the Cooler Master cooler and Corsair Vengeance kits for NewEgg. I didn't even know about the 28mm GPU until you mention it. Thank you for that. This upgrade should be way cheaper now.
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Re: Fall 2011 Utility Player/Suggestions and Comments

Postposted on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:55 pm

I decided to get the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO motherboard. Also bought the i5-2500K for $160 from Microcenter. This should be a fun build. :D
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Re: Fall 2011 Utility Player/Suggestions and Comments

Postposted on Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:49 am

By the way JustAnEngineer, if I want to game at 2560x1600 Resolution, what should I look for in a graphic card? Is a 2 GB card better than 1 GB card? For example, do I gain more from a Radeon HD 6950 2 GB or a Radeon HD 6950 1 GB?
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Re: Fall 2011 Utility Player/Suggestions and Comments

Postposted on Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:36 am

tombking wrote:By the way JustAnEngineer, if I want to game at 2560x1600 Resolution, what should I look for in a graphic card? Is a 2 GB card better than 1 GB card? For example, do I gain more from a Radeon HD 6950 2 GB or a Radeon HD 6950 1 GB?

I haven't looked into numbers to back this up, but I was under the impression t hat the 2gb did come into play with resolutions greater than 1080p.
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Re: Fall 2011 Utility Player/Suggestions and Comments

Postposted on Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:31 pm

Not every game is affected, but for the ones that run out of texture memory, there's a huge performance hit. I'd stick with 2 GB for 2560x1600 gaming.
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