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Which is better?

Postposted on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:19 pm

So this will be my first gaming PC and I have about $1000 budget for the component parts. Don't need monitor or keyboard or mouse. So far I have come up with too different list and could use some help one what is better. Also is there are any suggestions on what to change on either one would be great.

List #1
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL- 46.99
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan - 49.99
ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - 149.99
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card- 329.99
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom-89.99
IntelCorei5-2500KSandy Bridge3.3GHz(3.7GHz Turbo Boost)LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K-219.99
Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)-74.99
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive-99.99

Total: 1060.92

or List#2

Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, come with Five Fans, window side panel, top HDD dock - Retail 89.99
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 144.99
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card-269.99
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom 74.99
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K 229.99
Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 73.99
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 53.99
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 99.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 29.99

Total :1067.91
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Re: Which is better?

Postposted on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:35 pm

Jford31 wrote:So this will be my first gaming PC.
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What do you think of some of these components?

$230 -25 combo Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K 229.99

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 29.99
or $34 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - 149.99 +7½ shipping
or $138 ASRock Z77 Extreme4

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 53.99
or $45 2x4 GiB PC3-12800 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B

ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card- 329.99
or $290 -20MIR MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD7870 2GB
or $235 -20MIR XFX FX-785A-CNFC Radeon HD7850 2GB
or $400 Gigabyte GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX670 2GB

$90 -10MIR 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
or $120 128 GB Crucial M4
or $130 128 GB Samsung 830

$100 2.0 TB Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001

$55 -10MIR Antec Three Hundred Illusion

$68 -10MIR Antec EarthWatts EA-650

$100 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM

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Re: Which is better?

Postposted on Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:43 am

Right now, for an extra $15 you can get Windows 7 Pro (24 hours only though) from newegg using code EMCYTZT1852
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Re: Which is better?

Postposted on Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:26 am

JAE has pretty much covered it. The i5-3570K is a bit faster per clock but the i5-2500K has more overclocking headroom (~400Mhz). The i5-3570K can still do 4.4GHz without much/any additional voltage and has native USB3.0 and PCIe 3.0 support which the 2500K doesn't. The Hyper 212 EVO has flattened heat pipes at the base for more surface area on the processor and thus better heat dissipation than the 212 Plus. I would go with an AMD 7850 which should be plenty for gaming on a single monitor. The Antec Three Hundred series is definetly a solid case. And if this is a gaming PC, you'll want at least a 120-128GB SSD. (120GB is enough for about 5 games plus Windows and other programs)
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Re: Which is better?

Postposted on Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:27 pm

Thank you guys for the insight and I tweaked things a bit and this is what I have. Any thoughts?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bsE8
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Re: Which is better?

Postposted on Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:47 pm

The 700W PSU in the one build is definitely overkill. I'm running a healthy overclock (2500K @ 4.5ghz) and a slightly more power hungry card (GTX460) on a 550W PSU. That OCZ 700W is cheap though as long as you trust the MIR and the brand.

If you have a Microcenter nearby they have CPU prices cheaper than anything you'll find on the internet, and often have motherboard/CPU combo deals as well. I think too much is made of Ivy Bridges "weakness" in overclocking. Maybe it doesn't overclock quite as much as SB, but it still overclocks really well. TR got their 3770K to 4.4ghz at the stock voltage, which is nothing to sneeze at. Both SB and IB will be able to handle anything you throw at it really. The only CPUs that are significantly faster are the 6-core SB-E for $600-1000, and even that isn't really going to be faster in games (where its 2 extra cores will sit idle).

7870/7850 are definitely the video cards to get in that price range. If you check out TR's review they are faster than the 560ti in every single game, and consume less power doing it. The only appealing cards Nvidia has right now are in the $400+ range or the very specific $170-190 range (GTX560). In every other case I'd definitely go with an AMD card.
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Re: Which is better?

Postposted on Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:41 pm

Very wise move to increase the size of the ssd; I have a 120 Vertex 3, and you can get actually install all of your utility-type programs plus several games on it comfortably. It's especially important to make sure that the programs that start up with Windows are on the ssd to get the maximum experience. I also second the smaller PSU to save a few bucks.

Sometimes you can find combo deals at Newegg that might save you a few dollars, or you might get slightly more expensive components for effectively the same price.
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