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Airmantharp wrote:Filters didn't work?
Airmantharp wrote:Case in point, my P180 was disgusting inside despite fan filters.
Captain Ned wrote:Airmantharp wrote:Filters didn't work?
No, filters are full as well. I'm just trying to make the point that there are no absolutes in this issue.
JohnC wrote:I don't know what you were doing wrong to make your P180 "disgusting inside". I have never had to clean the heatsinks on my video card or CPU cooler inside my P183 case, even when only using 2 exhaust case fans (which came with the case), same goes for "blowing the dust out of the case" (there's NOTHING to blow out), that is considering my PC is turned on 24/7. If you do not believe me - you are free to visit my house any time you want to and examine the case as long as you want to. I understand that some person might unintentionally screw up his/her case ventilation which would allow the intake of large amount of dust particles, but that doesn't instantly mean that the whole case design is "flawed" in any way
rogue426 wrote:This thread has turned into the zombie apocalypse of SBA. The post whoring of the OP over one build is mind blowing. I'm interested now in what other threads develop over this build, what color mouse pad should I buy and how does it compare to Brand Y.
Airmantharp wrote:Looking at the Thor V2: primarily, it's much larger, slightly heavier (3lbs), much lower quality build, and uses only mesh to protect fans/filter. Also, it's more expensive.
You can expect near identical performance, if you don't break the case putting it together or moving it .
Airmantharp wrote:It's not all steel- the front and top are all plastic. I did do some research before posting .
Performance won't be identical in a testing scenario, but the system won't be louder nor will it overclock less. Effectively the same performance in a smaller package. Further the Thor V2 is a giant open mesh case with no filtering, so you're going to hear every part that makes noise and the case will collect dust.
If you could filter the thing, it'd be great, if you like that sort of case to begin with (I don't), but lack of filtering is the real killer.
Airmantharp wrote:at a lower cost and higher performance level than you're going to get elsewhere.
sherlock wrote:Then would R4 be fine if I just add 2 140mm in front & bottom to make it a 4 Fan case(this will be $20 at the cheapest)? Cause I am really unconformable with only 2 fans and don't want to deal with the risk/extra cost of going to IWC and 2 fan imo is not enough for maintaining good airflow during OC, I am considering opening the top vents just so there is more exhaust routes. I like the R4 design and all it is just the closed case makes me feel really uncomfortable about its cooling abilities.
sherlock wrote:This is my first PC and I want to hear as many opinion on it as possible to optimize my chance at success, if that somehow offends you I want to say I am sorry but I can't
sherlock wrote:I am really unconformable with only 2 fans
DPete27 wrote:sherlock wrote:This is my first PC and I want to hear as many opinion on it as possible to optimize my chance at success, if that somehow offends you I want to say I am sorry but I can't
[I mean this in the nicest way possible] The fact of the matter is that there is no "perfect" combination of components. (especially for cooling) Eventually you're going to have to make a decision and live with it. As you've seen here with the little dispute between Airman and JohnC, the thread eventually starts spiraling out of control as people lose focus/interest on the topic at hand. Yes, the TR gerbils are very knowledgeable, we definetly have our own individual opinions, and we love to share those opinions. Part of being the OP though is to guide your thread down the right path of answering the questions you need and not letting it get out of control. You've got a TON of posts, and many good suggestions, at this point I think you should read through everything once more and pull the trigger on something. It just feels like we're going around in circles.sherlock wrote:I am really unconformable with only 2 fans
There's nothing wrong with trying it out with 2 intake and 1 exhaust before you start adding more, right?
PS. Don't just leave vents open if you have the ability to seal them off. There will be plenty of cracks for the positive air pressure to escape.
sherlock wrote:So that leaves one thing I haven't pulled the trgger on yet:
Monitor ASUS VG276H 27” 120Hz $599.99
Chrispy_ wrote:sherlock wrote:So that leaves one thing I haven't pulled the trgger on yet:
Monitor ASUS VG276H 27” 120Hz $599.99
The Asus screen to get is the VG278H. Overall, it is the best general-purpose 120Hz screen at the 27" size, and that's as large as they go.
The Samsung SA27950D offers a visibly better panel (faster, better contrast, richer colours) but ergonomically, it's worse than the ASUS:
- Glossy instead of matte
- 3D compatible with AMD only
- Not wall-mountable (though it is exceedingly sexy)
- Slightly more input lag than the Asus VG278H. Not enough to really matter, but some people (like myself) are picky about this.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Threads merged.
It is possible to keep the $50 in your pocket or to spend it on a good game instead of hardware.
superjawes wrote:JustAnEngineer wrote:Threads merged.
It is possible to keep the $50 in your pocket or to spend it on a good game instead of hardware.
This.
Although the Corsair Obsidian 650D is in that +$50 range, too...
DPete27 wrote:Go with option #1. I still think you could save $45 and get the Hyper 212 EVO for $30 on sale right now, 840 reviews with a 5 star rating don't lie, but whatever...
sherlock wrote:I was thinking about the 212 Evo, however I do have the budget for something that allows me to push the OC further
DPete27 wrote:sherlock wrote:I was thinking about the 212 Evo, however I do have the budget for something that allows me to push the OC further
If that's what you want. What RAM are you using? That Pantech may cause RAM clearance problems in the first slot because of its dual heatsink design. Make sure you research your RAM height and the available clearance under the heatsink.
sherlock wrote:I actually have another $100 laying around for those games if necssary(only plan on playing BF3 and my 10 dozen old games the first month), but wanted to spend the $50 to maximize my system:
Air Cool seem to be the better option at this point(given the grinding pump issue that isn't going away with H-series) and I do dislike the 650D since I am paying for looks only(doubt is any more durable than the pure steel Define R4 and I don't see additional features an extra fan R4 couldn't beat(don't say the window I am not going to look at the case all day->that's why I spend the big buck on monitor).
sherlock wrote:Update, GPU/CPU Cooler/Case/Monitor ordered, ETA Thursday/Friday.