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IngeniousMethod wrote:If you're going to buy X79 and 3930K, make sure you're buying at least four DIMMs (memory modules) so you can take advantage of that lovely quad-channel memory.I found three Intel 6-core CPUs, one is apparently discontinued, one is well above my price range and the other is the Intel Core i7-3930K. I recognized the latter from one of the more expensive System Guide builds, and after reading over the information presented there it says I would need to upgrade my motherboard as well.
auxy wrote:IngeniousMethod wrote:If you're going to buy X79 and 3930K, make sure you're buying at least four DIMMs (memory modules) so you can take advantage of that lovely quad-channel memory.I found three Intel 6-core CPUs, one is apparently discontinued, one is well above my price range and the other is the Intel Core i7-3930K. I recognized the latter from one of the more expensive System Guide builds, and after reading over the information presented there it says I would need to upgrade my motherboard as well.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if X79 can operate in tri-channel mode?
IngeniousMethod wrote:Intel Core i7-3930K.... If that's what is recommended for streaming then I don't want to prevent myself from at least trying it out. Hopefully I can find some deals later
Airmantharp wrote:Thanks for your reply, but thaaaat ... doesn't really answer my question.auxy wrote:It can operate in single-channel mode, reducing performance predictably.Out of curiosity, does anyone know if X79 can operate in tri-channel mode?
DPete27 wrote:The game that TR used for that test isn't especially multi-threaded. I can say from experience that recording Skyrim with my 3570K, I can record it and maintain a perfectly smooth 60fps, but playing something like Warframe, which is 64-bit, multi-threaded, and more demanding, the framerate tanks while recording.I just want to be clear that I have ZERO experience with streaming, but I find this discussion very intriguing considering TR saw negligable performance differences between an i5-3570K, i7-3770K, and i7-3960X in their "gaming while mulitasking" tests. Considering the 8-thread 3770K/4770K is $240 cheaper than the 3930K, I'd be awful tempted to just go with that if there was a doubt that an i5 wouldn't cut it.
auxy wrote:Out of curiosity, does anyone know if X79 can operate in tri-channel mode?
IngeniousMethod wrote:I found three Intel 6-core CPUs, one is apparently discontinued, one is well above my price range and the other is the Intel Core i7-3930K. I recognized the latter from one of the more expensive System Guide builds, and after reading over the information presented there it says I would need to upgrade my motherboard as well.
IngeniousMethod wrote:Unless you really NEED more than four cores or more than 32 GiB of memory, LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E doesn't offer much over LGA1155 (or LGA1150 a month from today) except to drain your wallet. Quad-core Ivy Bridge (or Haswell a month from today) provides equal or better gaming performance for less than half the price. If you really want to improve your experience, get a fast single-GPU graphics card and a better monitor (e.g.: 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 IPS with low input lag) and use an Ivy Bridge or Haswell processor.*CPU - Intel Core i7-3930K (revised)
*MOTHERBOARD - ASUS P9X79 PRO (revised)
IngeniousMethod wrote:This graphics card provides no-compromises gaming performance. With just a single 1920x1080 monitor, you could save quite a bit of money by dropping down to GeForce GTX670 or a Radeon HD7970 or HD7950.*GRAPHICS - Asus GeForce GTX 680 (revised)
IngeniousMethod wrote:Is there any particular reason that you would choose this sound card over one from Creative Labs?*AUDIO - Asus Xonar DX 7.1 (plan on using my surround sound headphones so I gravitated toward this option)
IngeniousMethod wrote:Note that the Obsidian Series are gigantic cases.*CASE - Corsair Obsidian Series 650D.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Unless you really NEED more than four cores or more than 32 GiB of memory, LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E doesn't offer much over LGA1155 (or LGA1150 a month from today) except to drain your wallet.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Is there any particular reason that you would choose this sound card over one from Creative Labs?
JustAnEngineer wrote:Unless you really NEED more than four cores or more than 32 GiB of memory, LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E doesn't offer much over LGA1155 (or LGA1150 a month from today) except to drain your wallet.
IngeniousMethod wrote:Your desire to do video work at the same time as gaming and your generous budget probably justify the Core i7's hyper-threading over the less expensive Core i5 without hyperthreading. For straight-up gaming, the 4-core 4-thread Core i5 provides nearly the same performance for less money. The Core i7-3770K looks like a reasonable choice when you compare it to an LGA2011 Extreme Edition processor. Note that because Ivy Bridge has only two memory channels, you should buy your 16 GiB of memory as 2x8 GiB instead of the 4x4 GiB that would match with an LGA 2011 system. This G.Skill F3-1866C9D-16GXM is only $110½ after you apply promo code "EMCXRXT33".Okay so what about an Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge with an ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 motherboard?
IngeniousMethod wrote:*CPU - Intel Core i7-3930K (revised)
*MOTHERBOARD - ASUS P9X79 PRO (revised)
*RAM - Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) (revised)
*GRAPHICS - Asus GeForce GTX 680 (revised)
*STORAGE - Samsung 840 250GB (SSD) (revised)>> Seagate Barracuda 7,200 RPM 3TB (Mechanical)
*AUDIO - Asus Xonar DX 7.1 (plan on using my surround sound headphones so I gravitated toward this option)
*CASE - Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (First noticed this case on Newegg, before I even saw how prevalent it was in the System Guide builds. The one thing I really don't want to change, I love it's look)
*POWER SUPPLY - Corsair HX650 (revised)
*CPU COOLER - Corsair Hydro Series H80i Water Cooler
NovusBogus wrote:SB-E is good at what it does but in amping up the hoss powa Intel neutralized a lot of the advantages that SB/IB have over Bulldozer/Piledriver.
NovusBogus wrote:LGA2011 is high end stuff so it may not be an option, but if you drop down to LGA1155 there are a lot of affordable mATX solutions.
Bensam123 wrote:Some people are looking over the fact that he wants to stream...
Bensam123 wrote:The benchmarks don't tell me why we need to spend $2,400 on a build, especially if we're not going to spend some of that on a decent 2560x1440 or better display.If you're spending {over} $2k on a build, there is no reason you can't tailor it a bit...
Bensam123 wrote:Citation needed. Show some data, please.He's planning on streaming dude for the nth time it's been mentioned. The encoding while playing games benchmark also is not the same as streaming as both Auxy and I discussed earlier up in the thread. Please read the replies that were made further up the thread.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Bensam123 wrote:Citation needed. Show some data, please.He's planning on streaming dude for the nth time it's been mentioned. The encoding while playing games benchmark also is not the same as streaming as both Auxy and I discussed earlier up in the thread. Please read the replies that were made further up the thread.
You keep advocating giving up all of the things that make a gaming experience better (higher resolution display, faster graphics card, faster CPU cores, better-performing CPU architecture) so that you can assign another billion CPU transistors to the streaming task that little fanless standalone devices accomplish routinely.
anotherengineer wrote:Agreed.
My wife's little E-350 laptop has no trouble streaming video in 720p HD. Don't know about 1080p, since the screen is only 1366x768 :|
Prestige Worldwide wrote:OR
Wait 2 weeks and get a GTX 780 instead of a 680 as it will be based on a cut down version of Geforce Titan in the $600 area. A MUCH better buy than a 680 at this point.
Ryu Connor wrote:Right. Essentially similar to the task that Slingbox does for a fraction of the price of the Sandy Bridge-E processor.Streaming in this context means playing a modern 3D game while doing real time capture, MPEG4 encoding, and delivery for others to watch.