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First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:19 am

So a friend gave me his "old" computer parts.

2 x GTX 460 1024 GDDR5 cards
6 GB Corsair DDR3
i7 Processor (not sure on speed)
Gigabyte: GA-X58A-UD3R MB

I want to build an SLI Machine out of those parts.

I don't know what size power supply to get, or a case that will have enough room to build SLI and have room to install sound card.

So, what size PSU? What case?

On another note: My current system is - and I might consider combining pieces and parts to make the best computer I can.

GTX 560 ti
8 gb G.SKILL Ripjaw
i5-2500k
Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3
Inside of an Antex 900 (bit to small for SLI)
ZALMAN ZM750-HP PSU

Lastly, I was considering turning the leftover pieces into a media center for the living room. LOL.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:32 am

Advice? Sell both these cards and your current one and get a better single-GPU card, preferably with at least 3GB of video RAM.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:56 am

Yup, what JohnC said - sell the three cards, buy a nice powerful gaming card and maybe a little tiny card with HDMI for your HTPC, use the x58 + i7 + tiny card in the HTPC, keep the 2500k + powerful card as your gaming machine.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:08 am

I can't be without a computer, so can't sell all three at once. Where would you suggest I sell the other two? I have no idea what their value is either.

Is it not even worth building an SLI rig out of them?
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:28 am

Try eBay. And no, SLI'ing them is not worth it. Especially since they are older generation and have almost no support by now in most recent drivers. Go to http://www.geforce.com/community, you'll find plenty of reports of people with older 400-series of cards reporting issues with latest driver builds and talking about things like "latest stable driver version".

dractul wrote:I can't be without a computer, so can't sell all three at once.

Your motherboard has DVI/VGA outputs, no? Switch to your integrated graphics, use that until new card arrives, problem solved.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:08 am

Might be a good idea to find out what i7 cpu is along with the brand of the x58 board I am guessing a i7 -920..but by chance you have a 970, 980x or 990x those are 6 core CPUs that have a lot of processing power along with ocing abilities.

I would cleane the top of the x58s CPU and and see what #s it has it might be a desirable stepping of a CPU that overclocking great! making it worth more money,

As for the 460s they are dramatically slower then your 560 TI wich equals around a gtx 470. But you may be surprised people may want another 460 for there SLI or a physic dedicated card. Be sure to include the brand of 460 cards and finding out the the speed of the motherboards memory.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:54 am

Sell all 3 cards, buy R9 280x or a 4GB GTX 770.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:15 am

The 460s SLIed would not provide enough of a speed boost over your 560 Ti(Which has both a fully enabled GPU, unlike the 460 and higher clockspeeds) to be worth the hassle. In some cases it wouldn't provide a speedup at all. If you are set on SLIing, you need to do it with more modern hardware, sorry. Like everyone else says, sell the GPUs unless it'd piss your friend off.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:26 am

Those parts may be old but man, that's a good friend. :D

I'm still kicking around my C2D E6600 for use in an HTPC.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:41 am

I'd sell what can be sold for a decent price, and recycle what's left (X58 board and CPU plus RAM) into a second machine. Give it to a friend or family member, or use it yourself.

My now-massive media storage server began from such recycling. Your i5-2500K is massively better than almost any LGA1366 CPU, though, particularly if it clocks up at all.

I was actually running a very similar rig a year or two back, i7-920 on X58 with dual GTX260s, later GTX460s via RMA. It was good, but when I moved to an i5-2500K it got massively faster, and when I swapped out my GTX460s for a single GTX660 Ti, it got faster yet again and left behind all the SLI weirdness. I no longer had to check if SLI was functioning, or create custom SLI profiles, or any of that malarky.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:47 am

With the New AMD Radeons coming out, you can expect to pick up 7970's and 7950's on clearance - with 3GB of RAM.
Either of those would be consistently faster than even a pair of GTX 560Ti's in SLI.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:51 pm

Thank you all for the advice and considerations. I will try to sell what I can and do the upgrade. I was trying to save as much money as I could.

Now I need to consider what case to use if I do get a new card.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:39 pm

As someone who ran 460 SLI for a long, long time -- yeah, JohnC and the other posters are right.

I'd watch prices on GPUs like a hawk in the next few weeks. I'd sell the 560Ti and a 460. Try to get at least $100 for your 560, shouldn't be too hard.

As far as a case goes, check out the Cooler Master Elite 361. It's a really nice smaller (but still full ATX!) case that I've built several gaming machines in. If you want something a little bigger, look around, but I strongly suggest you look for something with a bottom-mounted power supply. I'd also avoid cases with a plethora of pointless 5.25" disk mounts.

Your 2500K is still quite serviceable. Throw in something like a 770 or R9-280X and you could have a quite nice gaming machine!

Needs more SSDs tho.

vargis14 wrote:As for the 460s they are dramatically slower then your 560 TI wich equals around a gtx 470. But you may be surprised people may want another 460 for there SLI or a physic dedicated card. Be sure to include the brand of 460 cards and finding out the the speed of the motherboards memory.
Good advice! It's also important to find out, with a 460, whether it has 192-bit or 256-bit memory. Even if it has 1GB video memory, it could still be the infamous "GTX 460 SE", with the gimpy memory bandwidth.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:18 pm

Case:
There are plenty of options to suit sensible budgets but since you mentioned you're not trying to spend much, have a look at the Antec One or the Corsair Carbide 200R. Regardless of what they come with, you're going to want positive pressure in the case (more intake fans than exhaust fans) so the usual recommendation is to get two 120mm fans on intake duty and one 120mm exhausting (PSU and graphics card will also exhaust, but not enough to offset the extra intake fan). The reason for positive air pressure is two-fold:

1) Dust can't get in if air is being forced out of the gaps. It'll only accumulate on the intake filters.
2) Denser, high-pressure air is more effective at moving heat away from heatsinks, so lower temps and quieter fans.

Power

As for power supply, you want to aim for around double the peak power draw. This means you're operating in the most efficient range of the PSU and it gives you plenty of headroom for capacitor aging and potentially a component upgrade or two. Unless you're doing something crazy with overclocks, you're probably looking at 500-650W. Aim for an 80+ bronze model. I'd recommend Corsair, Seasonic and Antec, though there are plenty of other decent brands to look at.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:13 am

Nice! More info for me to consider.

On a side note, I found out the i7 processor I have is an i7-958. Should I replace the i5 with the i7?
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:32 am

I don't know of an i7 958, think its a 950 and there's something on it. Is your 2500k oced at all? If not, that will likely yield way more power. My 2500k does 4.8, up from stock 3.something, and it's on a 20$ hsf and very little extra volts. My i7 920 oced from 2.8 up to something pathetic like 3.5, and it was never happy about it, even with a top Noctua cooler on it.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:52 am

The i5-2500k will overclock much better than your i7-950. The i7 will not be an upgrade.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:31 am

Just keep that old junk as a spare :P If something will happen to your main PC (such as motherboard going bad) - you can use that old motherboard + CPU as a temporary replacement.

I would still buy an extra PSU, though, for the same purpose.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:00 am

It's a 950. Intel puts a slash through their zeros on chip markings and since you have to hold them to the light to read them it's easily seen as an 8 or a B.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:01 am

Chrispy_ wrote:It's a 950. Intel puts a slash through their zeros on chip markings and since you have to hold them to the light to read them it's easily seen as an 8 or a B.

Stick with the i5, it's going to be significantly better for gaming (at stock speeds), about equal for productivity stuff, but it'll overclock to 4.5GHz with ease using a P or Z-series board.
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Re: First time SLI with Free Parts... Need some advice

Postposted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:31 am

Mentawl wrote:what size PSU?

This PSU calculator is very simple to use. I typically go with 25% capacitor ageing.
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