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FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:57 pm

I'm planning to upgrade to a cheap build soon and was considering this : FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 , this board sounds good.. I'm not really planning to overclock.. anytime soon at least and this CPU consume already enough power as it is, also I'm mainly upgrading for BF4( and crysis 3 I had troubles at that mission in the open).

Also with mantle coming soon it sounds like a good mid-way CPU and cheap ! which would cost me total 260 swiss bucks (thats where I live) and ram I already bought. Oh and also that board supports windows 8 and 8.1 which is cool.. I've seen some other like the gigabytes didn't..

A 4670k and 150$ Mobo would cost me 380$ which I don't really have and I could save for a graphic card too so.. I think the choice is done but I wanted some last minute advices before I purchase ! any new CPU release in the coming weeks or something ?

there is that APU from AMD but sound irrelevant, plus I got a 5870 dont need an APU.

Or maybe Intel ? so they drop their prices finally ?? (I'm dreaming).
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:26 am

An FX 8350 isn't a bad choice. It gets you 8 "cores" for an attractive price in your area. Here in the US, an 8350 is about the same price as a non-K i5 when not on sale (for that price, the i5 is more attractive IMO). Anyway, you should be aware of some things before you purchase:

1) Read TR's performance comparisons.
2) AMD seems to have lost interest in the FX family. They're concentrating more on the APU side of things. If you have an "Intel-mindset", its not a big deal since the next CPU you buy will probably need to be accompanied by a new mobo. But the days of using an AMD mobo and dropping 3-4 generations of CPUs onto it are over.
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:37 am

You won't go wrong with the FX 8320. It's a powerful CPU, although it isn't as powerful as Intel's entry quads in the majority of apps and uses more power, it gains in multithreaded apps like video encoding. But if it is much cheaper then a i5 quad, go for it ;)
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:52 am

I'm not sure why the last two posters are talking about FX-8350s when you said 8320. Make ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you are getting the R2.0 version of the board, as the original release does not support the FX-8320 or FX-8350.

That said, the two processors are the same thing, assuming you get a decent cooler (Hyper212 or similar will suffice) and overclock the 8320. AMD FX series has poor performance per-clock and will do relatively poorly in current titles (games without Mantle) without a very high clock. Under 4Ghz is a no-go for serious gaming, in my personal opinion. Thankfully, 4Ghz is *easily* attainable with virtually all FX chips, without extra voltage.

It's a nice upgrade, and reasonably priced. Still, as much as it pains me to say it (as a self-professed AMD fangirl), if you can get an Ivy Bridge or Haswell quad-core for similar money, I'd strongly consider that instead.

However, your 5870 is getting a little long in the tooth and will probably be your bottleneck in most cases, anyway, so it might not matter.

By the way, FX chips benefit in a larger way than Intel chips from faster RAM, so if you have fast 1600 or 1866+ RAM, that might help close the gap a bit.
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:58 am

yea thanks auxy, yep indeed I'm limited on budget or i'd go 4670k, 8320 seem the best bang for the buck right now, the 8350 is 200$ which is 20 or so less than a 4670k ! I'd prolly go for that if I could, I also have a noctua d14.. and I've been looking more thoroughly.. If I wanna overclock I'd need a better board in fact, llook at the GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 .. and from what i seen (on another forum) I'd need the Rev.4 which seems hard to find here ..

I'll have a look with my local store see if the can order one, and yea as you say since I got only that card for now it doesn't really matter, 8 core will still be worthwhile and i'd get decent fps in most games anyway 10 times better than mye8500 C2d ehh so it's still another world :).
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:05 pm

Corrected.
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:15 pm

itachi wrote:I also have a noctua d14.. (...) If I wanna overclock I'd need a better board in fact, look at the GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 .. and from what i seen (on another forum) I'd need the Rev.4 which seems hard to find here ..
Don't get too hung up on needing the "best" overclocking gear to overclock. I'm running 4.4Ghz (4.7Ghz single-core) with an Ivy Bridge on a really cheap Z68 board, and it's about 99.8% rock stable. (It doesn't like 4.7Ghz for long periods, but meh.)

The point is, you have a really nice cooler and you can definitely push that chip a bit even on a mediocre board. I do not think 4Ghz is out of reach on that Extreme3 R2.0, but the 990FXA-UD3 is obviously a lot better.
itachi wrote:yea as you say since I got only that card for now it doesn't really matter, 8 core will still be worthwhile and i'd get decent fps in most games anyway 10 times better than mye8500 C2d ehh so it's still another world :).
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:54 pm

Have u considered the sabertooth 990fx r2.0/3.0
It gives great overclockinng ability although will take a bit of time learning the BIOS after coming from an non GUI bios setup :p

Its been very great for me since a year now

Remember these chips will push close to 200w or more when over clocked its different cooling field then the Intel chips which use less power in comparison so don't skimp out on the board
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:32 pm

Mmh good stuff yea plus they have it in my local store.. I've been looking more thoroughly into it.. I was considering that 1 too MSI 990FXA-GD65 , since like the Asrock wouldn't overclock so well with not enough phases.

I read that the early version of like the gigabytes, MSI boards at least had troubles with vishera CPU's some even claimed it would catch fire cause too much power going through the VRM's.. like wtf.. and it's still being sold here at my local store, what a load of crap seriously.

Also I read on some online store reviews some guy said that MSI board doesn't recognise the HD5870 Great.. I've no idea why though sounds odd.. maybe he didn't mount the card properly or something mmh..

I'd be tempted by the sabertooth plus they have that board second version (http://www.prodimex.ch/pInfos.aspx?CODE=E07A15&D=ASUS+Sabertooth+990FX+R2.0+%28+AMD+990FX%2fSB950+-+Socket+AM3%2b+%29+3+x+PCIe+2.0+x16) at my local store... but it cost 170 bucks, and the more I invest the closer I get to a haswell/4670k price point mmmh.. like This and a FX-8320 costs 330 bucks

A 4670k+ a 150 bucks Mobo haswell (i had my eyes on the asrock fatality killer But I might look further into it) would cost 390 so..

I'm really on the edge should I just save more and go haswell cause pretty much all the boards besides that sabertooths seems useless on my local shops.. the don't have the higher revisions of the board that support vishera well, oh well I guess I might just save a bit more lol.
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:19 am

i was in a similer situation here were my choices good to best from left to right
Asus M5A97 R2.0, Gigabyte 990FX UD3 Rev 4.0, Asus M5A99FX R2.0, Asus Sabertooth R2.0, Gigabyte 990FX UD7, Asus 990FX Crosshair Formula-Z
the gigabyte one is good have a friend running it and a quick price search suggests its going for around 150 usd
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im guessing u dont live in the US so it might be hard to get ur hands on these boards
u could send a list of compatible mobo's in ur local store so we can have a look :P
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:21 am

auxy wrote: Also I'm really surprised the name 'itachi' wasn't taken on this board.


lol ya maybe evryone though it was taken :p
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:30 am

itachi wrote:I was considering that 1 too MSI 990FXA-GD65 , since like the Asrock wouldn't overclock so well with not enough phases.


I'm running an AMD FX-8350 with an MSI 990FXA-GD65 and both have been working well enough together for more than a year now. The 990FXA-GD65 is not the best 990FX board out there but it's a good one for the price and it has tons of USB ports at the back. I was hoping to have Firewire and eSATA too but I realized that my last motherboard had Firewire and eSATA but I NEVER used them.
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:27 am

http://www.prodimex.ch/pGroupe.aspx?FAM ... SOCKET+AM3 here is the link to my local store am3 mobos

The MSI seem to be the best and cheapest with 8 phases actually mmh.. what about the reports about VRM's burning I've read on other forums.. for like the Gigabyte UD3, some guy say it's cause they didn't put enough airflow on the VRMs, but since when do you need to cool it yourself, I mean these boards are designed to overclock it shouldn't burn at worst it should crash and reboot safely (like my my P5Q pro had NB overheating.. it just crashed, rebooted perfectly fine, took me a while to figure out what was wrong though but it didn't BURN damn. lol).

Also also the VRM's are very badly placed on boards and since I have a noctua D14 I'm not even sure about the airflow there it's all obstructed.. and I prolly can barely touch the heatsink to see if it's burning hot.

Now my question is .. are these board defective in a way.. because they say that the fixed it with the rev 4 of the UD3 gigabyte.. or is it just very very bad airflow in those guys cases that led to that.. mmh.

I should probably wait to see the mantle benchmarks so then maybe even a stock FX-6300 might do the trick lol, also I want a mobo that work well directly out of the box if I buy the 8 core.. since I can't really upgrade the bios without the CPU inside (well if it's not supported what use for it to be inside lol) that's too bad too one feature they could add ! or correct me if I'm wrong but I also asked that on another forum and a guy said you need to have the CPU inside (working I suppose), to flash the BIOS.

Also great I can forget the asrock board : http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/4681 ... t-apm.html cpu throttling :o.

"Case closed. The FX 8320 and ASRock 990FX Extreme3 work together!

The processor is compatible with the motherboard at BIOS version 1.7, but not 1.5 (which is what I seemed to have). "

Great why they don't even tell you this or just remove those boards from the stores and put the updated versions, I don't get it, not everyone have an old cpu of the same socket laying arround to upgrade the BIOS.. ugh.
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:00 am

for bios update head to ur local store and ask them to do it they usually have old cpu's lying around to do it for you
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:52 am

If you dont plan to overclock... you might still want to undervolt.

Personal I done both at the same time on an fx-8320. (1.2v at 4.2ghz)

If you can get a deal on an fx-8320 or 8350 + motherboard, I would go for it.
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:27 am

As an owner of an ASRock Z77 Extreme 4, I should let you know that ASRock's mobos have horrible fan control setups. I highly suggest looking at ASUS or Gigabyte motherboards. (Yes all Gigabyte mobo's support Windows8)
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Re: FX 8320+Asrock Extreme 3 = GG or ?

Postposted on Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:17 pm

Ithink I might just go for the MSI in the end, the Gigabyte do have VRM that heats up more I seen it in a review.

Too bad I can't find someone who got this board to give me some feedback =).

And yea they probably can update the bios, they probably gonna charge me a insane amount for it too.. which should be free uuhh
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