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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:39 am

kumori wrote:If you're buying new RAM it makes sense to go with 1600mHZ, but there is no reason to swap out functioning 1333mHZ RAM for 1600mhz RAM.


True. My previous posts assumed that the choice was between purchasing 1333 or 1600. If you already have 1333, don't bother buying 1600. It's not something that is going to change your gaming performance at all in most cases. Memory speed can only be used to improve gaming performance in rare cases where you are not already CPU or GPU limited.
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:16 pm

Thanks again guys! Yeah I wasn't interested in buying 1600MHz ram, I was just curious if there was any noticeable performance difference.
Besides my motherboard only goes up to 1333MHz anyways so it doesn't really matter.

I do know about sound cards but I've never used one in my system. Plus I don't know what a sound card actually does.
I'm guessing they take off some workload from the CPU to process sound?
And what ones would you recommend for a gaming build such as mine?
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:47 pm

CPUs have more than enough power for sound. That was an old marketing point for X-Fi's with XRAM taking the load off of Pentium 4's back in 2006, where offloading the sound to an X-Fi would free up 5-10 frames per second in some games like Quake 4, FEAR, etc.

These days, the only thing that really counts in a sound card is that they (generally) have better DACs (Digital to Analog converter) that changes the digital sound produced on your computer to an analog signal that your headphones / speakers can use. A better DAC means better sound quality.

Some sound cards, like the X-Fi and Xonar cards can also use / emulate EAX, which was used for extra sound goodness in older games made prior to Vista's launch. But with Windows Vista changing the way sound works in the OS by replacing DirectSound with XAudio, hardware sound acceleration was pretty much killed.

Everything is done in software these days. One of the first high quality software sound renderers (handled by CPU, not sound card) that allowed Quad Core CPUs to shine would be Battlefield: Bad Company 2.


If you're on a budget, the Asus Xonar DG would be a nice choice.
+ Built in headphone amp
+ EAX emulation for old games
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+ Good DAC on a budget
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:59 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote:CPUs have more than enough power for sound. That was an old marketing point for X-Fi's with XRAM taking the load off of Pentium 4's back in 2006, where offloading the sound to an X-Fi would free up 5-10 frames per second in some games like Quake 4, FEAR, etc.
While true in theory, software implementations are often poorly coded, and eat more CPU cycles than they should. It's far from a top concern, but if I'm paying extra money for a standalone add-on card, I'd still rather see the card offload the audio processing from the CPU.
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:43 pm

Unfortunately that ship has sailed. Ain't nobody got time fo' hardware accelerated sound these days :(
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:17 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote:Unfortunately that ship has sailed. Ain't nobody got time fo' hardware accelerated sound these days :(

So TrueAudio is doomed?
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:02 pm

Just to be more precise:

Ain't nobody got time fo' traditional hardware-accelerated sound these days.
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:02 pm

Hey guys!

I just received my Corsair Carbide 200R today and spent a few hours moving all my components into the new case. All is working well and my system sounds a lot quieter in the new case.
I'm also expecting the USB PCI adapter to arrive tomorrow so I can use the front USB 3.0 ports.
However I also purchased these for extra cooling:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CO-9050 ... ds=corsair

The problem is the fans use a small 3-pin female connector to power it but my PSU only has support for those big white 4-pin connectors other fans use.
Is there a good and cheap adapter that can connect 4-pin and 3-pin connectors together?
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:04 pm

Zodaic123 wrote:Ok i'll leave the PSU alone for now. I have the money at the moment to get the new case, along with the usb 3 adapter.
Is it worth getting an extra case fan for the side? Since the case only has two pre-mounted fans, and there are seven mount locations for 120/140mm fans.


Side mount fans are the best fans in the case for cooling the GPU and CPU VRM,s . They are even more important if you run a closed loop water cooling system that makes for a tidy CPU socket area but not a lot of airflow over the power components. That is where the side intake fans do their best work cooling around the CPU socket and cooling the GPU some extra.

I know I love my 2 120mm side intake fans feeding my GPU's fresh air and lovingly blowing on my motherboard:) My bottom 120mm intake fan in front of my PSU helps feed my GPU's also along with cool air for everything.
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:17 pm

vargis14 wrote:I know I love my 2 120mm side intake fans feeding my GPU's fresh air and lovingly blowing on my motherboard


Yeah same, though I can't seem to find any suitable 4-pin to molex to 3-pin connectors.
I have a total of four fans but I can only use two as the fans don't have any support for molex or 4-pin connections; they only have 3-pin female connectors.
Is there any power adapters which have these features under £4?
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:34 pm

Zodaic123 wrote: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CO-9050 ... 007RESFYK/

The problem is the fans use a small 3-pin female connector to power it but my PSU only has support for those big white 4-pin connectors other fans use.
Is there a good and cheap adapter that can connect 4-pin and 3-pin connectors together?
If you could plug them into the chassis fan headers on your motherboard, that would be great, but these adapters are cheap and easy to use. Some fans even come with them included.
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:30 am

don't worry, I've bought on of these so I can use all the fans:

Zalman Multi Fan Power Connector ZM-MC1

If you connect a fan to the motherboard, is it then controlled by the computer in terms of fan speed?
or does it only just provide power to the fan and nothing else?
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Re: Should I Build A New Rig?

Postposted on Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:38 am

That would depend on your motherboard. Your Gigabyte PH67-UD3-B3 can adjust the speed on the "system fan" header to control the temperature of sensors on the motherboard. As long as your case fans aren't super-powerful, you may be able to get away with plugging in two of them to the same motherboard fan header with a simple splitter.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-FY320- ... 001MTGD0E/

For cases with more fans or for motherboards that don't have enough fan speed controllers, you can even buy add-on temperature controllers.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CPU-Speed-Contr ... 0054U470K/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-SENTRY-Tou ... 002L16OMO/

P.S.: I fixed the broken link in your post.
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