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Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:46 am
by druidcent
It's on the Shell Shocker for today (10am - 1pm PT)

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:00 pm
by 5150
Got a link? Looks like it is $699 again.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:11 pm
by MadManOriginal
That's because it wasn't 10 AM PST yet :P

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824260111

This was 599.99 as a Shell Shocker a few weeks ago and it sold out. I was pretty tempted but at this point I feel like waiting for 120Hz IPS and/or higher resolution screens - I feel the latter will be ramping up sooner and faster than we think. The other things that made me hesitate are that the physical vertical size isn't any larger than my 1920x1200 and text is smaller, both due to the finer pixel pitch. I can deal with 16:9 in this case because it's still more vertical pixels than 16:10 1920x1200 and 16:10 (2560x1600) with this horizontal resolution hasn't come down in price at all.

The reviews for this are generally very good though, so if you're looking for a monitor like this, go for it.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:04 pm
by churin
Yes, the reviews for this monitor are generally very good but probably because they never used S-IPS paneled monitor except one of the reviewers who rated as one egg. This review is a comparison between U2713HM and U2711. He described how inferior it is to U2711 and said spend the extra money and get a real IPS paneled monotor, or get U2711 instead.
I am using U2411(S-IPS) so I hesitate going for U2713HM. Maybe U2713HM is for current TN panel users to upgrade.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:59 pm
by Voldenuit
churin wrote:
Yes, the reviews for this monitor are generally very good but probably because they never used S-IPS paneled monitor except one of the reviewers who rated as one egg. This review is a comparison between U2713HM and U2711. He described how inferior it is to U2711 and said spend the extra money and get a real IPS paneled monotor, or get U2711 instead.
I am using U2411(S-IPS) so I hesitate going for U2713HM. Maybe U2713HM is for current TN panel users to upgrade.


The U2713HM uses an AH-IPS 8-bit panel and is a true 8-bit panel (as opposed to S-IPS panels which are 6-bit+FRC to achieve 8-bit color depth).

So the U713HM is a "real" IPS panel.

The main difference with the older U2711 is that it used a H-IPS 8-bit panel +FRC to achieve 10-bit color depth.

For people who need the expanded color gamut, the U2713H (note the lack of M at the end) is available and has an AH-IPS panel + FRC to get 10 bit color depth.

But if you don't, you can safely ignore the misinformed (and possibly deluded) negative reviewer on newegg (newegg reviews: 'Nuff said).

EDIT:
Clarified wording. Also worth noting that I have a HP ZR2440W which is an S-IPS panel with 6-bit+FRC, and the color reproduction is much better than the old Gateway FP2485w 8-bit *VA panel with 10-bit lookup table it replaced. I can't see any banding or flickering with the FRC. So while I was skeptical of S-IPS panels in the past, I have to say that this one at least performed better than I was expecting.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:07 pm
by MadManOriginal
Standard gamut is arguably 'better' for most people who don't do photo work anyway. Most content is designed around standard gamut. I have an LP2475W wide gamut and colors are way oversaturated by default. To overcome this (sort of? dunno if this is technically correct but it works without needing a fully color aware system) I use the 'digital vibrance' setting in NV control panel turned down from 50% to 39% (or 100% to 78% on older drivers). It makes all content look much more natural - reds no longer feel like lasers shooting into my eyes 8)

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:30 pm
by sid1089
How does this compare against the korean monitors - like the one monoprice sells for ~$400? Lack of inputs/scaler/usb/sd reader all seem trivial when the price is so low.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:55 pm
by superjawes
sid1089 wrote:
How does this compare against the korean monitors - like the one monoprice sells for ~$400? Lack of inputs/scaler/usb/sd reader all seem trivial when the price is so low.

Not sure if it ends up being the same monitor, but there is this.

My take was always that the Korean alternatives seem pretty high in value, but end up lacking features that would factor into your decision. Personally, I would pay the premium to get the inputs, scaler, and USB ports.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:12 pm
by MadManOriginal
Probably more OSD adjustments beyond brightness and contrast. Longer warranty, although the Monoprice ones do at least have 1 year warranties. Hopefully better quality in general as far as fit and finish and internal electronics. The Monoprice and other 'off-brand' monitors are good at least in terms of getting lots of pixels so it depends on priorities.

On that note, I bit on the Dell for $550. My LP2475W is still good but there's a weird...I don't know...dark 'water stain' is the best way to describe the appearance along the right-hand side. It only shows up on darker, solid colors which means it doesn't affect regular use at all. In fact I didn't even know it was there until a fresh install of Windows 8 with its default solid color desktop. It's strange though, it's not always the same intensity, and isn't always in the same place so it's not a simple defect in certain pixels and isn't image persistence or burn-in either. It's out of warranty now :( but I think this must have been there before it was...drat. I actually had the same sort of thing happen to a pair of NEC 20WMGX2 along the top edge while they were still in warranty.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:21 pm
by Airmantharp
superjawes wrote:
Personally, I would pay the premium to get the inputs, scaler, and USB ports.


That all depends- I purposefully picked up my HP ZR30w over the Dell U3011 on the basis of not having a scalar to keep down the input lag. USB ports are nice of course, but USB hubs are cheap; a scalar can be nice and would be the only thing I'd miss if I had anything else to plug into the monitor.

Re: Dell 27" Ultrasharp U2713HM -$549 - NewEgg

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:16 am
by MadManOriginal
Monitor is awesome....don't feel like writing a lot of details right now.