Flying Fox wrote:But hey, who stole the 2.6GHz Phenom? The Grinch again?
Daveburt714 wrote:AMD/ATI together? I see alot of integration possibilities there, CPU/GPU on the same piece of glass?! Seems like natural progression to me, and I don't know if Big Blue is even considering that yet.....
Worse? Not financially I am afraid. They have seen consecutive quarters of losses mounting to billions of dollars before, yes. However, not with this amount of debt. All it takes is one creditor to call in the debt and we will be seeing Chapter 11. They have been practically printing money with creative financial tricks like issuing covertible bonds, equivalent to you applying one credit card and run balances on that card to pay off another credit card debt. If they don't start to make any real money the bubble will burst somewhere. So while they are not going to go belly up tomorrow, the threat is very real. Let's not lose sight of that.Daveburt714 wrote:AMD has been in worse spots than this... They do need to get thier shtuff together, but all this sillyness about AMD going belly up is just ridiculous!!
That's basically the difference between Intel and AMD. AMD is under a mountain of debt. Intel is sitting on fat cash reserves and with momentum to still rake in profits quarter after quarter. When they were sucking so much they are still in the black. AMD has always been treading a fine line between black and red. Intel can basically sit on their cash and just hang on for a while, and that's what they did over the Netbust years. What woke them up? Servers. AMD was finally making some inroads and in the process managed to wake up the beast.wingless wrote:Those pathetic Pentium 4's were sucking for 4 long years under the Athlon64 and X2's and nobody ever said Intel would die off.
That I agree, they manage to stay afloat (or at least create the illusion of "doing well").wingless wrote:My point is, AMD is a damn good company that is performing extraordinarily well under the circumstances.
How long? That's the problem. This is the stock market, and most people don't look past a few quarters.wingless wrote:I wish I had some money in the bank to buy their stock. A comp that can perform like this will see a damn good increase in their stock value in the long run.
And there's the problem for AMD and Intel.Daveburt714 wrote:My old 939 is still plenty fast enough!!
I have to amend that to say that I personally find their Black Edition CPUs to be not only creative thinking in terms of a product offering but also very compelling. It won't beat an OC'd Conroe/Allendale, but it's unlocked multi offers a fun factor not available on the Intel side until one spend SEVERAL hundred dollars more.flip-mode wrote:The only "outside the box" thinking I've seen AMD do lately is in the financial area
Daveburt714 wrote:I really didn't think the SB600's were that bad, of course I'm still running 939 on an Nfarce 4 chipset.... BTW, where are the Vista Drivers Nvidia .... Sorry, I digress....
But those guys (AMD) are the renigades of Silicon Valley, they think WAY outside the box compared to Intel!
mongoosesRawesome wrote:Aren't vista drivers out for nforce 4?
Unfortunately the nForce3 users are still getting hung to dry, with no end in sight.Daveburt714 wrote:mongoosesRawesome wrote:Aren't vista drivers out for nforce 4?
Thanks for the Link Mongoose!
I usually make it a point to get my drivers from the motherboard manufacturer (In this case ASUS, A8N-E), their website still doesn't have those drivers available.... I'll do some checking to make sure the drivers are reliable for that board first though...
Daveburt714 wrote:1st chip to reach 1Ghz, 3DNOW!, 32 and 64 bit instructions on chip, on die Memory Controller, Hypertransport, Cool&Quiet, SOI medium, first native dual core, first native quad core, 1st to use DDR memory, let alone the fact that they are the only thing that has kept Intel honest on the price front for the last 20 years... I'm sure there are others, those are just off the top of my head!
Guess they could have slapped 2 X2's on a single package like Intel did, ofcourse then they'd be corporate lemmings too....
accord1999 wrote:Guess they could have slapped 2 X2's on a single package like Intel did, ofcourse then they'd be corporate lemmings too....
That could be thinking out of the box; realizing building a monolithic 280+ mm^2 core may cause problems and have a backup plan just in case and sometimes elegance doesn't matter as much as time to market, performance and cost.
Flying Fox wrote: There can only be that much expenses to cut because most of them are interest payments. You think the creditors will be nice and forgive your interest and/or principal?
morphine wrote:flip-mode wrote:The only "outside the box" thinking I've seen AMD do lately is in the financial area
Outside the box and under the box.
Shi, that ain't so bad. I've been living in a van down by the river!Archer wrote:morphine wrote:flip-mode wrote:The only "outside the box" thinking I've seen AMD do lately is in the financial area
Outside the box and under the box.
Living in a box down at the end of an alley, next to a dumpster.
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