P67 Board to Match 2500k

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P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:31 am

So I'm throwing in the towel on AMD for the first time in a decade, and I'm having a difficult time determining what MB to marry with the new chip.

I'm partial to Asus boards, have used AMD based MSI boards long ago and have mixed feelings about them, and have never really been impressed with the Gigabyte offerings available. I refuse to get anything open box and brands like ASrock need not apply. The system will be used for gaming and possibly matched with an AMD 6950. Some light overclocking for now is also in this systems future. Any recommendations?

Newegg currently has a 10% off Asus motherboards.

I noticed this sweet looking thing. However my eye did also catch the high 1 star reviews that seem to suggest quality issues. I've learned to take these kind of comments with a grain of salt since people tend to screw things up themselves and then blame the product. It doesn't change the fact that the number of lower reviews stating things like DOA or blue screens, controller install issues on Win 7 and the like are much higher than most I come across. I like the AMD sabertooth for the temp sensors that can be used to pinpoint thermal "hotspots".

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131702

I will be matching this board up with 2 x 8gb Corsair ram (1600 for OC overhead)
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:26 am

Best features of that mobo are:

* TUF Thermal Armor - Total Airflow-Boosting Heat Dissipation

* TUF Thermal Radar - Real Time Temp Detection and Heat Removal

* TUF Components [Alloy Choke, Cap. & MOSFET; Certified by Military-standard] - Certified for Tough Duty

* E.S.P. [Efficient Switching Power Design] - Optimal power efficiency for key components

* Quad-GPU SLI and Quad-GPU CrossFireX Support!


And the black stuff that covers a lot of the mobo is neat too! What a slick mobo, I'd go with this over anything else that is out!
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:32 am

Wait, why not Z68? Better in every way but not more expensive...
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:00 pm

Yeah, Z68 > P67.

If I were you — and this is just personal preference — I would do an mATX build like the one I put together a while back (a 6950 would easily fit). There's something nice about a tidy, smaller-than-normal gaming PC (I built one for myself after building it out for a friend). The little motherboard has the same robust version of ASUS' BIOS that their most expensive full-ATX boards have, and it has nice power delivery, too — you can easily put a decent OC on four DIMMs and crank a 2500K up past 4 GHz on it (some people have taken CPUs past 4.5 GHz on it).

If you don't want the mATX board, I'd recommend one of ASUS' Z68 ATX boards — one from the P8Z68 line. The P8Z68-V Gen3 looks like the ticket if you want to OC — the "Pro" version isn't worth the extra $25, to say nothing of the Deluxe (lol).
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:17 pm

Why not wait for the IB generation? While the 2500k is a great chip, you may either get more bang for the buck or pick up the 2500k at a reduced price. Personally, I'd wait for the Z77 motherboards.
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:31 am

The Z67 is pretty much just a hybrid of the P67 and H67 and costs near the same. Plus the sabertooth can be had for roughly 160. Its priced at 219 then down to 199 thanks to marketing bs by newegg.. then 10% off all asus boards... then a 20 $ discount with the 2 x 8 gb corsair 1600 dimms im buying anyhow. Doesnt get much more discounted than that. I plan on overclocking too and the P67 is the gaming version of the 67 chipset. As for the newer chipsets... they are bound to be more expensive without discounts for feature im not likely to care about.

As for IB... the top end chip showed to be about 30% faster but at a 300%+ premium.. not counting all of the other expenses that go along with a new platform. I just dont see the value in it when the 2500 will smoke the hell out of just about everything now and in a few years before I even overclock.
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:18 am

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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:23 am

I believe Z68 is exactly the same, physically, as P67 and H67. The software is the only thing that's different. Marketing...

The P8Z68-V/GEN3 is going for $180, * .9 = $162.

There's nothing wrong with the Sabertooth. I wouldn't buy it because there are cheaper options that are plenty robust and one doesn't need sensors and shrouds to OC Sandy Bridge to hell and back. ASrock is fine — it's ASUS's baby, and mobo retailers buy the same components from the same factories anyway.

*shrug* Several people have taken 2500Ks to 5+ GHz stably on this $130 ASRock Z68 board (which sometimes goes for ~$100).
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:47 am

Seems to me that OCing is a crap shoot, mostly depends on luck that all of the components (including the CPU) are capable of taking the little bit of stress you throw at it.

I've just had a friend order an ASRock after I warned him to spend a little bit more, and it was complete fail. I don't recall who, but another poster here on the forums has had good luck with them. Just not something I care for as the parts do feel cheaper than ASUS boards. The same friend didn't listen when I told him not to buy an open box motherboard, he insisted on it because it was going to save him roughly 40 bucks, got himself a Gigabyte 890FXA-UD7. He had nothing but issues with it, but luckily enough was able to return it to newegg and ended up buying a new one local for quiet a bit more.

So your saying ASRock is an ASUS company, hmmm who would have guessed. Doesn't really change my feeling on the subject but good to know.

I went ahead and pushed the button on the Sabertooth. I agree that the number of sensors are a bit ridiculous but I love the idea of completely being able to map out the hotspots on the motherboard. I get way into the cool aspect once I get going, and if im overclocking it at the same time, well then its all gravy.
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:22 am

Did you look at the P8Z68-V/Gen3?
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:34 am

Welch wrote:As for IB... the top end chip showed to be about 30% faster but at a 300%+ premium.. not counting all of the other expenses that go along with a new platform. I just dont see the value in it when the 2500 will smoke the hell out of just about everything now and in a few years before I even overclock.


The prices for them have already been leaked. And I have no idea what you mean by a 300%+ premium. Here is the way the list compares the 250k replacement:

Model Cores (Threads) Frequency Turbo L3 Cache TDP Price Current CPU / Price

Core i5-3750K 4 (4) 3.4 GHz 3.8 GHz 6 MB 77 W $225 i5-2500K / $216

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In lots of 1,000 its a a $9 premium. Retail won't be much different.

And I'm not sure what you mean by new platform. Same DDR3 will be used and you're looking at a new mobo anyways. And its the same socket, LGA1155. I'm not sure I'm seeing justification for your reluctance unless its that you just want it *now*.
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:07 am

Jambe wrote:ASrock is fine — it's ASUS's baby

Welch wrote:So your saying ASRock is an ASUS company, hmmm who would have guessed.

ASRock was an ASUS subsidiary, but since June 2010 (it was spun-off from ASUS) they are different entities. ASRock is now owned by Pegatron Corporation. </threadjack>
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:59 pm

Hey, I'm still right. They just adopted it out.

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@Welch: anecdotes, schmanecdotes, I guess. People regularly have incredibly-cheap boards from ECS, Biostar, Jetway, Foxconn etc last for half a decade or more despite close to 100% uptime. All motherboards are made with virtually the same components bought from the same handful of companies. There might be huge differentiation in their QC programs but I seriously doubt it. And all these companies have the potential for horrid customer service.
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Re: P67 Board to Match 2500k

Postposted on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:00 am

@JAE - No I didn't see that one but don't make me start having buyers remorse :P, I noticed the Bluetooth on it.. I know its a cheap dongle but still. The price would probably be +/- $10 from the one I got. Nice looking board. And 3 x PCI-E 16 physical. I have serious doubts that I'm going to even use crossfire in a 2 x configuration, but we shall see.

@TheEmrys - Hmmm, I'll have to dig up the article that I found regarding replacing the 2500k with the newer series. And I was not aware that they were going to be 1155, for some reason I thought it was going to be socket 2011. I'm not as well versed with the newer or higher end Intel parts. Sadly enough this is the first high end build with Intel that I've done in over a decade. If worst comes to worst and I feel I need that upgrade, I can always give this system to the wifey :), it would be major overkill for her.
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