DoubleSight DS-245W

[l33t-g4m3r]

Is the DoubleSight DS-245W a good lcd monitor?
http://www.doublesight.com/prod_ds240wb.htm

[Flying Fox]

That's the intelligence we have so far (point #5).

[NeXus 6]

If you game, I'd worry a bit about the higher input lag since it uses a S-PVA panel.

[l33t-g4m3r]

I was looking at a Acer P243WAid for TN, but isn't viewing angle a problem with TN?
(not to mention color, probably should avoid TN..)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824009125

[thecoldanddarkone]

I should be able to say something about it Sunday/Saturday. My little brother got one (suggested by me). First complaint from him, Holy COW it's bright.

[l33t-g4m3r]

The doublesight?
play a movie/game and see if it looks good/no ghosting.

[l33t-g4m3r]

Just bought it.
Hope it's as good as the specs claim.

[Flying Fox]

I should be able to say something about it Sunday/Saturday. My little brother got one (suggested by me). First complaint from him, Holy COW it's bright.

Most LCD monitors ship with too bright in the brightness settings. FYI I'm running my Dell 2005FPW with brightness set at 0.

Just bought it.
Hope it's as good as the specs claim.

I expect pictures, reviews, and the works.

[l33t-g4m3r]

just got my monitor.
1 dead pixel right in the middle. (why in the middle... )
other than that it's a LCD.
Doesn't come close to my old 21" trinitron for gaming, but it works.
There is definitely some ghosting in fps, vsync helps.
quake3 is noticable, ut2004 is decent.
ATI still has that mouselag problem using vsync too.
Movies are pretty good.

The OSD isn't bad, there was a few people on newegg complaining, but I don't have any problems with it, its about the same as my CRT.

Honestly, I think I should just get my CRT repaired, so I can use both.
Something on it's going, thats the main reason I got this LCD.
The screen on my crt gets bigger with a white background and shrinks with a dark background.

[Flying Fox]

1 dead pixel right in the middle. (why in the middle... )

Be glad it is in the middle since you may be able to argue with them to replace it.

[l33t-g4m3r]

how? I think its a 8 pixel policy with newegg, and the manufacturer is 6.

[UberGerbil]

Getting a CRT fixed can be worth it, particularly if it's a large screen and you like it. Of course, how much it costs depends on what is wrong. The 21" CRT that I bought in '94 (expensive) lost its red gun in '03, and I was surprised that it didn't cost a lot to get fixed. I worry about the guy I took it to, though -- he's a bit like the typewriter repairman at this point. If you're going to get it fixed, better do it sooner rather than later.

[Flying Fox]

how? I think its a 8 pixel policy with newegg, and the manufacturer is 6.

I remember calling up one LCD manufacturer a long time ago and the person said "if the pixel is in the middle grid, may be we can do something about it". Won't hurt to try anyway.

You did try all the massaging tricks and see if the pixel is really dead?

[l33t-g4m3r]

yup, and the software too.
Guess it wouldn't hurt to call, but I'd hate to get a replacement that's worse.

[l33t-g4m3r]

I sort of discovered that changing the refresh rate to 75 actually helps.
I didn't think lcds worked past 60, but it seems to be doing something.
The biggest difference is in secret maryo chronicles. (good way of testing a lcd.)

I don't like the color range of this lcd, as I can see the color gradient in dark images/movies/games.
(Is this really a hi-color lcd, or do all lcds have less colors available than a crt?)
It seems to be in-between 16 and 32 bit color, looking at images in both modes.
(I also wonder if it's caused by the driver, since I could swear there was more color running dual with my crt as primary, and now its not connected.)

[NeXus 6]

Too bad about the dead pixel. If it were me I'd just ask for a refund if they won't exchange it.

It might be a 6-bit+FRC S-PVA panel and it will may show some color dithering/banding. Adjusting contrast can lessen banding on some LCDs.

Go here to calibrate it:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

[l33t-g4m3r]

I asked about the color and here's what they told me:

The DS-245W does not support Wide Gamut but it is a true 8-bit LCD.

So it is 8-bit, just not wide gamut. (whatever that means..)
How can I tell which LCD's have wide gamut anyway?
Here's what they said about the dead pixel:

It is allowed to have three dead pixels in zone B. Zone A is 4’ by 4’ in the center of the screen and it is allowed to have two dead pixels there. You do qualify for a replacement but it seems you are not happy with the gamut; that being said you may want to return the monitor. We will be releasing the DS-243N which will support wide gamut.

Now I only have 1 dead pixel in the center zone, but it seems that If I really wanted a replacement they'd be OK with that.
I don't know if I want to mess with replacing the monitor though.
To me it seems that buying a LCD is like playing the lottery, I could easily end up with something worse, and the 243N is a TN, which I probably don't want because it's a TN.

I'd like to find out more information before doing anything just yet.