danny e. wrote:btw, for anyone still using a rebel xt or xti.. the 40D is a HUGE step up.
The price of PRIMO QUALITY used XTi's mean I can buy two of them for the price of a 40D -- or one of them & a solid prime or two (think 28 & 50).
Great...if they work for you.
p645n wrote:That low XTi price is due to those who usually talk much more then shoot -- you know the ones those that say a "40D is a HUGE step up".
Do I know what I'm talking about?
No it's not. It's because they're a low-end model that's out of production and has been supplanted in Canon's lineup by 2 new models. It's clearly not going to sell for the price of a new updated model or very close to that, as people would just buy the new one. The price has nothing to do with much beyond that. When you're selling an updated body new for a tad over 600, a used example of the previous model's going to be somewhere between $400 and $500 in price. That's true independent of the 40D and other higher-end cameras.
p645n wrote:Probably as I've run 15,000 shots through each of my XTi's and you'd be very very hard put to find a situation where a 40D would have produced a better image in any of those shots.
If you pull up dark shadows enough you'd probably see a bit of a difference there from the 14-bit RAW of the 40D.
p645n wrote:So in my opinion photographically the XTi is the equal of the 40D -- where as ergonomically or maybe (mainly unused) bells & whistle wise the 40D may pull ahead.
Of course they produce similar image quality - they're cameras from the same company (even that's not all that vital, everyone's fairly close to be honest) using the same size sensor. The ergonomics and operation are another matter entirely. If I were to use a rebel for an extended period, my hands would cramp up from the horribly undersized woman's grip and I'd be incredibly annoyed at the interface in general. (I'd also miss nikon niceties even on the 40D, but that's another matter entirely).
p645n wrote:And the two XTi body to one 40D concept?
Try shooting events or street or any other subject under rapidly changing conditions. An XTi with a 70-200 & a second with something like a 17-40 will produce quality shots while the 40D will go through fumbling lens changes.
Sure, but at the same time if you're sticking with one lens and the conditions are truly rapidly changing, the better controls of the 40D come into play. Same goes for fast action with the better AF and for some subjects better continuous shooting rate.
p645n wrote:So what am I waiting for? The 5D replacement so I can buy a couple of used PRIMO QUALITY 5D's cheap from someone who has to have the latest & not necessarily greatest.
That fits your needs. Great. It's not like having differently-priced bodies that produce the same quality images and are differentiated by features and capabilities other that pure static photographic quality is a new thing (leaving aside the slight advantages that the 40D might have in certain circumstances).
p645n wrote:Finally -- what do I suggest?
Always spend the bucks on quality glass (& that means no 18-200 zooms) -- then mount that great glass on the previous generations bodies.
That's reasonable enough, depending on budget.