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Krogoth wrote:Care to enlightenment me?
grantmeaname wrote:Do you think the 27" size or the IPS is overkill?I vote it's overkill.
wibeasley wrote:Do you think the 27" size or the IPS is overkill?
Krogoth wrote:Care to enlightenment me?
Skrying wrote:That's interesting, I hadn't thought of that price comparison, but I see what you're saying. Since I already have a decent TN monitor (and a non-Eyefinity gpu), I was planning for dual monitors. I guess the comparison is really [27" + 20"] vs [24" + 24"]. In that case, would you prefer the U2711?In my opinion I would rather have two U2410s over one U2711. Now... I wouldn't complain either way.
grantmeaname wrote:That's a tempting alternative for 1/3 the price. I wish I was more confident that I'd benefit from the color improvement. I'm not sure I've even seen a non-TN monitor. I've been to a Microcenter and BB in the past few months for other purchases, but they've never any available to look at that weren't TN. At least the Microcenter people knew what I was talking about when asked about their IPS vs TN availability.I have a 28" TN monitor, and it's absolutely amazing...it only cost me $320.
wibeasley wrote:That's a tempting alternative for 1/3 the price. I wish I was more confident that I'd benefit from the color improvement. I'm not sure I've even seen a non-TN monitor. I've been to a Microcenter and BB in the past few months for other purchases, but they've never any available to look at that weren't TN. At least the Microcenter people knew what I was talking about when asked about their IPS vs TN availability.
Krogoth wrote:Care to enlightenment me?
grantmeaname wrote:Ah, that's really helpful. I remember seeing a big (maybe around 27") all-in-one-box Mac. It looked very impressive and I asked the BB guy if it was IPS or TN. He didn't understand the distinction. Unfortunately I got distracted then and didn't write down the model number to check at home. I only saw a basic Mac interface, and couldn't compare it to a TN screen for the type of graphs I look at. It certainly caught my attention and I wondered if it was the quality of the panel or some eye candy the Mac OS uses.Did they have the Apple Cinema 30" or one of the brand new iMacs? That's the only IPS panels I've ever seen in person, but they've always had both in stock.
grantmeaname wrote:I understand that the dot-pitch affects the size of the fixed-size GUI components like tabs and button images. But I didn't think it really affects the size of Word or PDF text when I zoom to different levels. I assumed those types of programs scaled the text effectively. Am I wrong?Also, keep in mind that size of the document is determined by dpi of the monitor, not its size; thus, a 28" 1920*1200 is much "bigger" than a 30" 2560*1600 or a 27" 2560*1440, simply because there are fewer pixels to take up that space.
wibeasley wrote:Another question. I assume my 8600GT can handle 2560x1440 + 1680x1050. (I don't really mind spending another $100 on something like a 5670, but I really like my passively-cooled Accelero heatsink).
arsenhazzard wrote:The coupon applies to the 3007WFPHC also. Instead of $950 shipped, it's $1,211 shipped. Would it be worth the extra 20% to you?or at the very least, try and find some of the few remaining M/PVA panels (or a cheaper IPS...I don't see the 27" as a particularly good value compared to the 30" and 24" offerings).
wibeasley wrote:Everyone always says that's difficult or annoying to regress back to a TN after using an IPS or PVA. Since my other monitor will still be TN, I almost think I should get a big TN instead of something like the U2711, so the other one won't annoy me. It would be hard for me to justify getting two IPSes and discarding two decent TNs.arsenhazzard wrote:The coupon applies to the 3007WFPHC also. Instead of $950 shipped, it's $1,211 shipped. Would it be worth the extra 20% to you?or at the very least, try and find some of the few remaining M/PVA panels (or a cheaper IPS...I don't see the 27" as a particularly good value compared to the 30" and 24" offerings).
wibeasley wrote:I remember seeing a big (maybe around 27") all-in-one-box Mac. It looked very impressive and I asked the BB guy if it was IPS or TN. He didn't understand the distinction.
Flying Fox wrote:In work, total screen real estate (resolution) is king. Someone suggested 2x24" and I agree. If you think it may be a bit too wide, I can suggest 2x20" (square 1600x1200) with a slightly lower price.
Skrying wrote:Flying Fox wrote:In work, total screen real estate (resolution) is king. Someone suggested 2x24" and I agree. If you think it may be a bit too wide, I can suggest 2x20" (square 1600x1200) with a slightly lower price.
He already has 2 20" monitors. His wording suggests that width is the limitation in resolution so I fail to see how 2 4:3 monitors is better than his current 2 16:10 ones.
bthylafh wrote:I hope they still use the monitors after the rest of the embedded hardware is obsolete. It looks like the Mini DisplayPort is the only input you can use without an adapter. Whatever -I don't care enough to derail my own thread. But thank you grantmeaname and bthylafh, it helps to know that was an IPS I was looking at.The 27" iMacs have IPS panels.
arsenhazzard wrote:Ok, there arguments are pretty compelling for my situation. You've convinced me that 20% a $1100 U2711 isn't a deal I can't pass up.The 3007WFP-HC has been MUCH cheaper than that before
wibeasley wrote:If I'm going to spend around a grand, I think I'd rather have 2560x1440+1680x1050 (i.e., the new IPS/MVA and an old TN) than 1600x1200+1600x1200 or 1680x1050+1680x1050 (i.e., two new IPSes). It also sets me up better for the next monitor upgrade, because I'd be replacing a TN and not an IPS.
wibeasley wrote:My tentative plan is to get the 28" TN (1920 x 1200; .309mm dotpitch) that grantmeaname suggested for my next project.
Kurotetsu wrote:Wow. That's $60 less than the U2410 at its lowest sale price and $200 less than its current price.Another wonderful option would be the HP ZR24W. 1920x1200, IPS, $390 w/ free shipping
wibeasley wrote:Kurotetsu wrote:Wow. That's $60 less than the U2410 at its lowest sale price and $200 less than its current price.Another wonderful option would be the HP ZR24W. 1920x1200, IPS, $390 w/ free shipping
Is there a catch (that would affect my uses)? I didn't see any skimming the Hard Forum thread. Is the lack of a polarizer a problem?
Kurotetsu wrote:You're right -it doesn't affect me but help could other people reading the thread. My 8600GT has only DVIs and my next gpu likely will have a DisplayPort in a year or two.Some people in the [H]ard|Forum thread considered the lack of an HDMI port to be a "catch". Though reading your posts I get the impression you won't give a crap about that, but I thought it a good idea to point it out anyway.
Dashak wrote:What kinds of tasks? Text and still graphics -- or movies and games? Were they using comparable video cards?The same monitor at higher refresh rates looks miles better. 60Hz looks blurry to me.