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1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:48 am
by Airmantharp
I'm looking for an inexpensive (relative, I know) 1080p+ panel for photo work. Size isn't important, but under 21" would probably result in unbearably small pixels. I'm aware of Dell's excellent U2311, but I'd like to open up for ideas on other models, including used ones. I intend to get a calibrator to ensure accuracy for the panel, and the photos will be coming off of an entry level DSLR, and on to social networking sites and printed on a consumer photo printer.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:49 am
by Airmantharp
Looking at a refurbished U2311 at the Dell Outlet. Is this really the cheapest option available?

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:09 am
by DancinJack
Airmantharp wrote:
Looking at a refurbished U2311 at the Dell Outlet. Is this really the cheapest option available?



Probably. Most companies don't make IPS monitors under 24". $229 is a good price for that monitor. Or you could get a new U2211 for 249.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/prod ... u=320-9271

Only thing to really do is keep an eye out for coupons. I'm sure you know of slickdeals.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:39 am
by Airmantharp
I've noticed it's a rare find, but it slots perfectly for its intended use. I prefer the 23" for the higher resolution, as it's not much more than the 22", though saving a few dollars might convince me otherwise!

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:57 am
by ludi
Airmantharp wrote:
Looking at a refurbished U2311 at the Dell Outlet. Is this really the cheapest option available?

Go to Amazon and type "IPS monitor" in the search box, and you might find one or two refurbs (like Samsung or Viewsonic) for under $200. Otherwise, $250 and 22" is about as small and cheap as they get.

In any case, they're totally worth the money when you're working with digital photos and graphics.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:59 am
by wibeasley
Since you want other suggestions: consider HP's ZR24w (24" 1920x1200). I'm not sure it's worth $130 more than the U2311, but I've been happy with mine.
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18996
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_zr24w.htm
Edit: from SlickDeals $400 & free shipping http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/H ... /11108332/

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:02 pm
by Airmantharp
I think that the HP uses a higher-end IPS panel, but I am going for bargain basement here (again, relatively). I am considering the 30" in the same line for myself, as it uses the panel from the U3011, but matches it to electronics that have been reported to calibrate better and introduce less input lag than the Dell.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:15 am
by Airmantharp
I wound up purchasing a U2311 from Dell when the price dropped back down. Using a Spyder3Pro to calibrate it (and every other screen in sight).

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:23 pm
by Flying Fox
Airmantharp wrote:
I wound up purchasing a U2311 from Dell when the price dropped back down. Using a Spyder3Pro to calibrate it (and every other screen in sight).
Quick review? ;)

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:53 pm
by thecoldanddarkone
Yea, that would be nice, I'm still deciding which monitor I want to get . I'm sure I want a 23 inch. I'm not sure if I'll get the

Dell u2311 or NEC EA231WMI-BK

I'm looking towards the dell, but I can't find a decent deal for it right now.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824002524

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:50 pm
by DancinJack
U2410 is only 449 from Dell US right now.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:38 pm
by Plazmodeus
I use a Dell U2711 for my photo work. Its a dream. I can shoot in Adobe RBG on my Nikon, view in aRGB on my monitor, and my print house has their print machine calibrated for aRGB as well. Everything looks great, and I can hold a print up to the monitor and they look the same.

Playing SC2 at 2560x1440 doesn't hurt either.

Another note, if you get a good monitor that is capable of 30 bit colour, you can put a cheap FireGL or Quadro card in your machine and get true 30 bit colour in aps that support it, like Photoshop or Lightroom. It looks pretty sweet.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:44 pm
by Zoide

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:08 am
by Airmantharp
Zoide wrote:


That's actually pretty cool, thanks for the heads up! It is a bit expensive though, considering the prices of HP and Dell screens in the same range. Any idea of how it compares?

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:09 am
by Airmantharp
Flying Fox wrote:
Airmantharp wrote:
I wound up purchasing a U2311 from Dell when the price dropped back down. Using a Spyder3Pro to calibrate it (and every other screen in sight).
Quick review? ;)


Let me know what you'd like to know about it! I'm not a professional reviewer, but I'm willing to investigate and compare as you'd like.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:16 am
by JustAnEngineer
Airmantharp wrote:
Let me know what you'd like to know about it! I'm not a professional reviewer, but I'm willing to investigate and compare as you'd like.
How is the color? How are the viewing angles, from left/right and from the top and bottom? How is the evenness of the backlighting? Is there any edge bleed? How is the resolution scaling? How is the gaming?

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:44 am
by Flying Fox
Airmantharp wrote:
Flying Fox wrote:
Airmantharp wrote:
I wound up purchasing a U2311 from Dell when the price dropped back down. Using a Spyder3Pro to calibrate it (and every other screen in sight).
Quick review? ;)


Let me know what you'd like to know about it! I'm not a professional reviewer, but I'm willing to investigate and compare as you'd like.

I have the U2311 too, so I am not looking at controls, etc. I would like to see after calibration whether it can compare to the best of them. And any tips on calibration with and without the calibrator.

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:52 am
by thecoldanddarkone
I ended up purchasing the HP ZR24w from amazon with overnight shipping... :oops: For those wondering I did consider the dell u2410, but then I realized it would sit in srbg mode it's entire life :lol:

For those actually looking at purchasing the asus, I don't see any reviews yet from either amazon or newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824236119

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:29 am
by Airmantharp
thecoldanddarkone wrote:
I ended up purchasing the HP ZR24w from amazon with overnight shipping... :oops: For those wondering I did consider the dell u2410, but then I realized it would sit in srbg mode it's entire life :lol:

For those actually looking at purchasing the asus, I don't see any reviews yet from either amazon or newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824236119


I haven't mentioned it here yet, but I did also purchase a ZR30W for 'personal use'. I've been drooling over 30" panels for years, and the resolution is simply awesome (what I bought it for). Quick impressions of it, as compared to a 28" Hanns-G:

-Colors are awesome. Yes, I know, they're supposed to be, but still; this is my first personal non-TN.
-Input lag isn't noticeable, using Counter-Strike: Source as a test. This is a concern for the competing Dell U3011
-Out of the box, colors and brightness were very well set, and would be great for just about anyone not needing a calibrator
-Stand is wonderful- sturdy and easily adjustable, which is good for a monitor of this size
-Ghosting is noticeable next to the Hanns-G. My test was to drag a window back and forth across desktops relatively quickly. Where the 3ms 28" panel remained sharp, the 8ms 30" panel was a little blurry. I have not noticed and ghosting in games yet, and I'll take the extra contrast and awesome color and resolution any day!

I'll have to move things around to compare the U2311; I also have an ancient Samsung 204B 20" TN that I can also calibrate and throw in the loop as well.

On the Spyder3Pro; I'm not sure if I like the thing yet, as it seems to think that low ambient light means screens should run at low brightness levels, and on all three monitors I've calibrated, it has had me bury brightness (never touching contrast).

Re: 1080p+ IPS panel for beginner photo work

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:43 am
by Airmantharp
Oh, and this may require another thread (help me out mods), but the GPU I wound up with was this fanless Zotac GT430.

My requirements were:
-Quiet (using an old Lian-li PC61 case that amplifies noise)
-1GB of memory (not sure if it will help for photo and video editing over 512MB, but hey, 5 bucks)
-Has DisplayPort for the U2311, and HDMI for an HDTV

I'll be upgrading all of the fans in the case in order to make sure that stuff gets airflow, but overall, I think this will be a good, snappy system.