morphine wrote:Get Dell to add FreeSync and you'd be set.And while I'm at it, I'd like butter on my unicorn.
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morphine wrote:Get Dell to add FreeSync and you'd be set.And while I'm at it, I'd like butter on my unicorn.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:
I think I sit about 8 ft from my 65" TV.
Melvar wrote:morphine wrote:I could get a 4K monitor and play at 1920x1080 for perfect scaling
That's a myth. Everyone assumes that because 1080p could be scaled perfectly that it will be, and that is not the case. I have 3 4K monitors and not one of them offers the option of unfiltered 1080p scaling.
End User wrote:Melvar wrote:morphine wrote:I could get a 4K monitor and play at 1920x1080 for perfect scaling
That's a myth. Everyone assumes that because 1080p could be scaled perfectly that it will be, and that is not the case. I have 3 4K monitors and not one of them offers the option of unfiltered 1080p scaling.
Get a Mac. Retina 1080p.
End User wrote:Melvar wrote:That's a myth. Everyone assumes that because 1080p could be scaled perfectly that it will be, and that is not the case. I have 3 4K monitors and not one of them offers the option of unfiltered 1080p scaling.
Get a Mac. Retina 1080p.
Melvar wrote:End User wrote:Melvar wrote:That's a myth. Everyone assumes that because 1080p could be scaled perfectly that it will be, and that is not the case. I have 3 4K monitors and not one of them offers the option of unfiltered 1080p scaling.
Get a Mac. Retina 1080p.
You know, once I realized a GTX 980 was fast enough for 97% of games at 4K and can handle the rest just fine at 1440p, my desire for perfect 1080p scaling dried up almost completely. Filtered 1440p looks better than unfiltered 1080p anyway, thanks to nearly twice the detail. Especially on a large screen.
geekl33tgamer wrote:End User wrote:Melvar wrote:Everyone assumes that because 1080p could be scaled perfectly that it will be, and that is not the case. I have 3 4K monitors and not one of them offers the option of unfiltered 1080p scaling.
Get a Mac. Retina 1080p.
Ok, I have a problem with that. By using Windows display scaling algorithm, assuming his software supports it (that's an issue Mac doesn't have, granted), it will look crisp.
Now - Retina is a marketing term Apple created. It used to be used for high PPI displays (eg, shoving a 1080p screen into a 4" panel would be high PPI).
Using 1080p on a 4K screen looks sharp on a Mac because it's actually just display scaling the way Windows does. Multiplying the pixels on UI elements by a factor of 2 (150%) or 4 (200%) can give a 4K screen on Windows the effect of looking like either 1440 and 1080 respectively. Apple fudge the software so you see the intended res, rather than the native res of the panel that Windows will show you. End result is the same, and not exclusive to Apple.
Melvar wrote:unfiltered
Melvar wrote:Sometimes it almost seems like you're just putting on an act to make Mac users look like jerks.
Melvar wrote:unfiltered 1080p
Melvar wrote:Filtered 1080p is 1080p scaled to 2160p with a stupid pointless bilinear filter added just to piss me off.* Unfiltered 1080p would be simple nearest-neighbor scaling without any extra pointless blurring.
Melvar wrote:Dell already has a 5K (dual tile) monitor on the market BTW. Looks pretty sweet. Does the Mini not have the output hardware to support it?
End User wrote:Melvar wrote:Filtered 1080p is 1080p scaled to 2160p with a stupid pointless bilinear filter added just to piss me off.* Unfiltered 1080p would be simple nearest-neighbor scaling without any extra pointless blurring.
What are you using that applies this filter?
I use both Plex and VLC to view 1080p content on higher resolution displays (max 2880x1800). Uncompress Blu-ray content always looks great. Is there a stand out issue that is easy to see?
geekl33tgamer wrote:Honestly, most of this thread is just junk. It's basically kamikaziechameleon asking an incredibly vague question, then disagreeing or ignoring a lot of what's being said. Well, whatever - You've said time and time again that no GPU's exist with HDMI 2.0 so it's a problem. This is why I'm posting to correct you.
There's several sporting HDMI 2.0: GTX 960, 970, 980, 980Ti, Titan X.
fhohj wrote:I honestly wonder about 4K and other high-resolution display standards. I'm sure it'll have a presence in the workstation space, but on the consumer side, only so much software gets made. So with VR coming out soon, there presumably will be some movement in gpu-abilities. This will allow people to drive a high-resolution display. But VR games aren't display games. People only have so much money. If someone dumps a bunch of cash into a VR kit and big GPU, how likely are they also to buy a fancy display? If VR takes off, people will have the hardware to run a 4K display but will have already paid good money for that and playing games on a regular display will be less attractive. If VR doesn't take off quickly, then how likely is it that people will push VR farther away for themselves by adding in a 4K display before VR? Unless VR totally failes, which I think is really unlikely, I think it's going to seriously disrupt high-resolution displays as a premium-margin item. The consoles are a year and a half old, so assuming a regular life cycle, they have a ways to go yet. Those games do not require 4K displays or hardware. So where does that leave 4K displays for consumer PCs?
To that end I think 4K in the next 12 months will FINALLY have things ironed out. We'll start to see 4K blu ray content, new TV's with HDMI 2 ports, receivers with HDMI 2 ports. FINALLY!
Chrispy_ wrote:Well, if you look at frame times and average framerates of the FuryX and 980Ti reviews, you'll see that 18 months after this thread was started, 4K is still not a realistic resolution and still requires either a reduction in graphics settings or multiple GPUs to reach acceptable framerates in some current games.
Who would want to spend top-dollar on a graphics card only to find that it struggles in today's games, let alone stuff coming out in the next year or two.
4K and 5K are not gaming resolutions. 4K and 5K are not Windows DPI-scaling-friendly resolutions. The problem still isn't solved and until we move off the 28nm process for GPUs, AMD and Nvidia clearly pushing the cost and power envelopes as high as possible with their hot/noisy/expesive/large GPU dies.
Chrispy_ wrote:Well, if you look at frame times and average framerates of the FuryX and 980Ti reviews, you'll see that 18 months after this thread was started, 4K is still not a realistic resolution and still requires either a reduction in graphics settings or multiple GPUs to reach acceptable framerates in some current games.
Who would want to spend top-dollar on a graphics card only to find that it struggles in today's games, let alone stuff coming out in the next year or two.
4K and 5K are not gaming resolutions. 4K and 5K are not Windows DPI-scaling-friendly resolutions. The problem still isn't solved and until we move off the 28nm process for GPUs, AMD and Nvidia clearly pushing the cost and power envelopes as high as possible with their hot/noisy/expesive/large GPU dies.
It's a friggin mess, it's what it is. Menus don't scale or are out of space, UI elements go all wonky, the resolution increases but textures and some shaders still look like crap, etc.